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Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration

212) Shaun Chamberlin: How endless economic growth is incompatible with supporting life on earth

Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration

Kaméa Chayne

Earth Sciences, Philosophy, Society & Culture, Science

4.8694 Ratings

🗓️ 13 February 2020

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Shaun Chamberlin is the founder of Dark Optimism, a not-for-profit, research and activist organization that is positive about the kind of world humanity can create while being realistic about how far we have to go to create that future.

Shaun was also one of the first Extinction Rebellion arrestees, is the co-author of the book, Surviving the Future: Culture, Carnival and Capital in the Aftermath of the Market Economy, and serves as Executive Producer of the film, The Sequel: What Will Follow Our Troubled Civilisation?

In this podcast episode, Shaun sheds light on why the pursuit of endless economic growth is fundamentally incompatible with supporting continued life on earth; what it means to recognize the different layers of reality that people exist in today (i.e., the reality of economics and politics vs. the reality of physics and the environment); and more.

 

Featured music: Mountain Twin by Joel Porter

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and review in the podcast app. I read them all, they warm my heart, they keep me going, and I really,

1:17.4

really appreciate your support. So thank you so much. Financial independence doesn't even

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really exist, because all that money really allows you to do is become dependent on people you don't know

1:29.3

instead of being dependent on people you do know.

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And this is why rich people are often very lonely,

1:33.3

because it means that nobody in your life is indispensable.

1:36.3

If you have difficult times with someone, you can just replace them with someone else

1:39.3

and pay them your money instead.

1:49.4

That was Sean Chamberlain, the author of Surviving the Future, Culture, Carnival and Capital in the aftermath of the market economy.

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