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The Guilty Feminist

212. Rebellion with Sophia Cleary and special guest Karen Hawkins

The Guilty Feminist

The Spontaneity Shop

Comedy

4.912.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2020

⏱️ 60 minutes

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The Guilty FeministPresented by Deborah Frances-White and Sophia Cleary Episode 212: Rebellionwith special guest Karen Hawkins Recorded 9 January 2020 at Thalia Hall in Chicago. Released 27 July 2020. The Guilty Feminist theme by Mark Hodge and produced by Nick Sheldon. Please support us on Patreon so we can continue making this podcasthttps://www.patreon.com/guiltyfeminist More about Deborah Frances-White http://deborahfrances-white.com https://twitter.com/DeborahFW https://www.virago.co.uk/the-guilty-feminist-book More about Sophia Cleary https://twitter.com/_sophia_cleary https://www.sophiacleary.com More about Karen Hawkins https://twitter.com/FeministaJones https://twitter.com/chiefrebelle https://twitter.com/Chicago_Reader https://www.chicagoreader.com https://twitter.com/RebelliousMag https://rebelliousmagazine.com For more information about this and other episodes… visit guiltyfeminist.com tweet us twitter.com/guiltfempod like our Facebook page facebook.com/guiltyfeminist check out our Instagram instagram.com/theguiltyfeminist or join our mailing list eepurl.com/bRfSPT Come to a live recording! 8 August at the New Normal Festival. Tickets on sale now. 24 March at The Eventim Apollo in London. Tickets on sale now. Thank you to our amazing Patreon supporters. To support the podcast yourself, go to https://www.patreon.com/guiltyfeminist Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:11.4

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Caudible.co.uk for terms. I'm a feminist, and I think part of that is being as resilient as your

1:07.9

body will allow at any time and kind of building strength, and that obviously is relative to each

1:11.8

individual. But I want to be the kind of person who'd be like, no, I'm a feminist, and if suddenly

1:16.4

a revolution needed to take place, I would go the distance as much as my body would allow.

1:23.4

But last night, it was my first night in Chicago, and it was so cold that in my 10-minute walk

1:32.2

back to the hotel from a yoga class, I stopped at a theatre where a crowd of people were going

1:38.2

into sea mean girls and bought a ticket just to get inside in the warm. The five-minute mark I

1:46.1

caved, it was so cold I couldn't feel my face. I was like, what is this temperature? I said,

1:56.4

it was like an ice wall, it's not snowing here, but it was an ice wall in my face, and I couldn't,

2:02.9

I'm just like, they call it the winter city. I thought that was something to do with gangsters,

2:06.0

I don't think it was real. No, it's wind. It's actual wind. I always thought, I was like, oh,

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