This kid described how they would ambush some of their rivals from the Los

Mayos faction of the cartel in Zacatecas.

He described how in one of these jobs, he was a driver for one of these armored vehicles.

The way they would use them is they go into an ambush site.

They will pull their car forward, their trucks forward, and they will use the ramming

aspect of their cars from the back, not from the front. They don't want the engine to be damaged. So they'll ram their trucks forward, and they will use the ramming aspect of their cars from the back,

not from the front. They don't want the engine to be damaged. So they'll ram their trucks into

each other, and then the guys in the back of the box will pop out with 50 caliber rifles. And

that's how they fight each other in these destruction derby cartel wars that are going on in certain parts of Alisco and Saccatecas on the border.

Hey, guys. Welcome back to the next catch-up edition here of Game of Crimes with Murph in the morning, still in Southern California at a conference.

You know, I do this every year.

Folks that we've had on the podcast before we bring them up for a catch-up when I actually have the opportunity to meet a lot of them in person for the first time.

And today is the same thing.

We've got Mr. Ed Calderone with us today.

Ed was on Game of Crimes episode 119 in October 23.

So if you haven't listened to that episode, I would suggest you go back.

If you're interested in Mexican drug cartels, in Mexican police, and how things are interacting between the United States and Mexico, even today. That's a great background. I mean, this guy

was with the Mexican police. He was with a special unit down there that was just referred to as the

unit. And I'm thinking that was because it was so new. They didn't have time to give you a name, but it could be secret.

So we don't know.

You might find out today.

But, Ed, brother, it is an honor to finally meet you in person.

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