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or wherever you get your podcast. James, we are taping this on Wednesday

before the first Republican debate. But without any real pressions, I can already tell you one

of the headlines tomorrow morning or tonight. It's going to be the GOP debate was dominated by the

man who wasn't there. There may be a subhead that says XYZ, maybe Chris Christie scored a point or two.

This is a transparent fraud. This debate, it doesn't matter. Trump is way ahead right now.

And Cellsers, I will pull, has him up 23. I continue to believe that at some point,

he's going to start to slip and even crater. But you know, that's going to happen or it's not

going to happen, having almost nothing to do with these debates. I don't blame Trump for not

showing that. Why should he show up with people who are barely registering double digits right now?

But we ought to remember that for all the focus on the debate, more important, he had another

really bad week. He's not going to enjoy 901 Rice Street in Fulton County when he's a rain

Thursday. He's going to be treated like any other ordinary criminal. And some of his fellow

and ditees, maybe having second thoughts knowing how Trump would never be loyal to them, the

security chief at Mar-a-Lago, got a new lawyer and just flipped. Apparently, we'll testify the

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