What's up everybody? This is Cortland from AndyHackers.com and you're listening to the

NDHackers podcast. More people than ever are building cool stuff online and making a lot of money

in the process. And on this show, I sit down with these indie hackers to discuss the ideas, the

opportunities, and the strategies they're taking advantage of, so the rest of us can do the same.

So this is a fairly unusual episode of the podcast. I'm here with the two of you, Aila and Savannah Solo.

And we're talking about only fans, which is kind of at the intersection of the creator economy and porn. And porn is not a subject that has ever come up on the IndyHackers podcast before. So you two are blazing new trails here. Welcome to the show. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Also, I'm excited. Me too. I should do a disclaimer for listeners. People always tell me to do disclaimers. I've never done one before. So if you are a listener and you're not comfortable hearing about sex work, or listening to women talk about making a very healthy living from porn on the internet, no big deal. You don't have to listen to this. Although I recommend that you listen to this because I think it's cool. Both of you are very successful. Ela, you've shared that you're in the top 0.08% of creators on OnlyFans. How much money have you made on the platform before? My highest earning month was $105,000. Crazy. And Savannah, I don't know if you've shared, but I know that you were able to buy a house last year, sort of infamously, with your only fan's earnings.

Yes, yes, I was. I got to the top 0.06%, but my best month is $64,000.

So these are crazy numbers. I come from, like, the tech industry where, like decent amount of like envy. Like somebody who have a successful startup and people be like, oh, I'm so happy for them. And then like underneath, you could tell they're seething, they're like, they're kind of jealous. But what I've seen of both of you, just like reading through your profiles. Aila, you did like a huge AMA on Reddit a few years ago. There's envy when you're successful on OnlyFans,

but people don't hide it. They just let it out immediately. They are not afraid to talk about how jealous or how you shouldn't be making the money that you're making. It's crazy what you two are able to put up with. Yeah, the perception is that it's easy. I think a lot of people are like, well, if I were a woman, I could just go make that much too.

Yeah, for sure. I think a lot of people are like, well, if I were a woman, I could just go make that much too. Yeah, for sure. I think when people start selling pictures of their butt, they think, oh my God, I have the best butt that's ever existed, and everyone is going to want to look at this. But then they forget that you can just Google butts for free.

And convincing people to pay to look at yours is really an art form in of itself.

I feel like you're calling me out here because I just signed up for OnlyFans this week as a creator.

And I've only uploaded one photo and it's a photo of my butt.

So if you're an Andy Hacker's listener and you want to see what my butt looks like,

what should I charge?

Like 20 bucks for it. Absolutely. Depends on how artistic you did it. I think it was tastefully done. It's very subtle. You got to really hype it. I thought that's what we were doing right now. Like, this is the hype. You guys are going to have to teach me your tricks, though, because you're both super good at marketing on OnlyFans. You're both huge on Twitter. Savannah, my girlfriend's a huge fan of yours on Twitter. That's how you got on my radar. You've got about 230,000 followers. And Aela, you have two separate accounts on Twitter that are each at about 100,000 followers. So both of you clearly know what you're doing, and you're to have to teach me a few things. We absolutely can. I think between the two of us

you're in pretty good hands, decently good hands here. So for people who don't know,

OnlyFans is, what's the best way to describe it? It's almost like a Twitch or a YouTube,

but for porn. And so it kind of exploded onto the scene in the last couple

years and it allows you to basically post photos and videos for a subscription fee for your fans.

And they can actually like interact with you. It's not just normal porn, but it's interactive.

People can DM you and you can message them back. It's pretty cool. And I think it's sort

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