211 - Is DA a Good Business Model? - Neel Somani & Jon Charbonneau
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🗓️ 26 February 2024
⏱️ 93 minutes
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Summary
What’s Data Availability (DA) and what’s its Business Model?
In this episode we’re welcomed by Jon Charbonneau, researcher-investor at DBA and Neel Somani, CEO of Eclipse.
We unpack everything Data Availability from what it unlocks to its economics. We also get into the DA Market covering participants like Celestia and EigenDA.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
7:27 What is DA?
16:45 Is DA a Commodity?
23:40 DA Costs
30:23 What DA Unlocks
37:41 The DA Market
1:01:40 Network Effects
1:07:56 DA Economics
1:14:50 DA Value Capture
1:20:23 Celestia Monetary Premium
1:29:10 What’s Next for DA
1:34:29 Solana DA
1:36:01 Closing Thoughts
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RESOURCES
Jon Charbonneau
https://twitter.com/jon_charb
Neel Somani
https://twitter.com/neelsalami
Celestia
https://celestia.org/
EigenDA
https://docs.eigenlayer.xyz/eigenda/overview
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| 0:00.0 | I just think it's hard to become money. We only know two digital assets that I've ever done at |
| 0:04.4 | Bitcoin, Eath, and I suspect that part of that is because of the fact that Eath and Bitcoin are constrained |
| 0:09.5 | at the base layer. As a result, it forces this asymmetry of demand or incongruity of demand with respect to supply and it forces it to be deflationary |
| 0:17.8 | So I don't know if it's possible for that to ever happen again. It seems like more is like a freak accident of history where if you try to |
| 0:23.9 | deploy a constrained base layer today people would be like why would I use that |
| 0:27.2 | over Celestia, Salana, all the other guys but that basically means that only |
| 0:30.6 | Ethan Bitcoin will ever be money. Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance. |
| 0:44.1 | This is Ryan Sean Adams. |
| 0:45.1 | I'm here with David Hoffman, and we're here to help you become more bankless. |
| 0:50.1 | Celestialia just launched and is already worth over $20 billion at the time of |
| 0:53.7 | recording. That's the 11th most valuable crypto asset. We also have EigenDA |
| 0:58.3 | that's coming out soon and today we're taking an in-depth look an exploration of data availability. It's also known as |
| 1:05.4 | DA, also known as data publishing. If all of that sounds like a lot, don't worry. |
| 1:10.0 | We spend the first 10 minutes of the episode actually explaining it and why it is so important to understanding block space and your broader crypto journey |
| 1:18.9 | So the topics today. Number one, data availability. What is it? Why does cheap DA unlock for |
| 1:25.8 | Web 3? Number three, is it even a good business model? How valuable is it to be a |
| 1:30.4 | DA provider? Number four, we get right into the heart. Tia is worth 20 billion dollars. |
| 1:35.8 | Why? And finally, the broader question, is DA actually a race to the bottom? Is this a race for a a commodity what does the future have in store |
| 1:44.4 | for the entire market there has been this growing hype and excitement inside of the |
| 1:48.3 | Selessie ecosystem now being packaged up in the Tia is modular money a meme. |
| 1:54.9 | This is partly an exploration into that subject matter. |
| 1:58.6 | Maybe a prep for a conversation I'm going to have |
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