I dreamt that you were twisting through seven suns of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome to the Soberfall podcast.

So we don't usually have a repeat guest back this quickly.

But in January, we had the just wonderful Dr. Jamie Merritt,

she was here talking about, actually I got it right here, her wonderful book. This association

made simple, not a simple thing to say. Welcome, Jamie. Hi, glad to be back, especially

talking about what we're going to talk about. I know. So, funny, I interviewed Jamie. I got a book.

I've started reading it. At the same time, started reading like half the planet, Prince Harry's memoir.

And the books came out on the same day. They both came out on January 10. I did a TikTok about that.

Yeah. Funny. Yeah. So I was reading it, Jamie, and I was reading

Prince Harry's biography. And I was like, oh, he was disassociated for most of his young adulthood.

Like, he was completely dissociated. Yes. And I'm most of the way through the book. And there are

already about five or six examples I wrote

down where he specifically references behaviors that we would describe as dissociation or dissociative.

And that's not even including a lot of his drinking and drug references.

Yeah.

Because, you know, a lot of my teaching is that we can frame addiction as dissociation.

So even those aside, there's still a lot of very potent examples where he discusses being

dissociated.

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