So I messaged the nurse back and I said, we're going to get my husband's blood type tested.

We don't know.

And to determine if I need this shot or not.

And the nurse replied to me and said, we still recommend even if your husband is negative that you get Rogam because we don't know that he's the father.

And it's really important for mothers to know

that this is not like a black and white just because your negative doesn't mean you have to have

the shot there. There are a couple different places along the way where you can check in and

determine if this is even a relevant conversation for you. When we went in the morning to get my DNC, I brought it up to the nurse.

I said, hey, I have this rash. I think it's from Rogam. I'd like to talk to the doctor about it.

And she, the OB at the time, said, we have no evidence that this is from Rogam. We've never seen

that. I don't think it's related. And she downplayed a reaction to the shot that was listed on the insert.

Why ever give it in pregnancy and face those risks if it can be given postpartum? What am I missing here?

I'm Cynthia Overgard, owner of hypnibrething of Connecticut, childbirth advocate, and postpartum

support specialist. And I'm Trescia Ludwig, certified nurse midwife and international board certified lactation consultant.

And this is the down-to-birth podcast.

Childbirth is something we're made to do, but how do we have our safest and most satisfying experience in today's medical culture?

Let's dispel the myths and get down to birth.

Kelsey and Emily, thank you both for being here with me and Trisha today to talk about your

respective choices around the Rogam shot.

This episode was precipitated by an email that Trisha and I received from Kelsey after episode

188, which we released in fall of 2022, in which we featured a mom who did have Rogam. And in her case, the shot did not

prevent sensitization. And her baby did become sensitized. So Kelsey shared some really, we thought,

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