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PRETEND

2105: The Man Who Stole 200 Million Identities

PRETEND

Javier Leiva

True Crime, Society & Culture, Technology

4.72.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of PRETEND, recorded live at the GISEC cybersecurity conference in Dubai, I spoke with Hieu Minh Ngo, once one of the most prolific identity thieves in the world. Operating out of Vietnam, Hieu stole and sold personal data on over 200 million Americans. We're talking names, birth dates, Social Security numbers—everything you’d need to become someone else. But he didn’t hack his way in. Instead, he used open-source intelligence and even impersonated a private investigator to gain legal access to massive data broker networks. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Creative Babble

0:02.0

Sitting quietly

0:08.0

Once you've made the house all shiny

0:10.0

Down time can be just fine playing bangers from their 90s

0:14.0

Tea break

0:16.0

Maybe listen to the outbreak

0:18.0

Sometimes it's not time for some tombola, right?

0:26.6

It's enjoying lasagna time, chilling with a book time, or time to visit your nan time.

0:27.6

Go on.

0:28.8

Play some other time.

0:30.0

Put your phone down.

0:30.9

Tombola.

0:32.6

Open for fun.

0:35.5

Terms apply 18 plus gambleaware.org.

0:38.2

Hey guys, it's me Javier.

0:42.9

I am recording from the GYSEC conference in Dubai.

0:46.6

I'm presenting multiple presentations this week,

0:52.2

and one of them is a panel discussion with an identity thief.

0:55.0

His name is Hugh Ming-Nuh. He's also known as Hugh PC, and he's one of the most prolific identity thieves in the world.

1:02.0

Hugh is from Vietnam, and between 2007 and 2013, he hacked his way into data broker companies,

1:09.0

stealing personal information on more than 200 million Americans.

1:14.6

And he sold that data, including names, social security numbers, birth dates, banking details,

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