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CNN at one point in time when Bourdain had a show on, they were doing some very interesting things.

They were trying to do shows, not just the news, right?

So they had no reservations was the best one of them.

Where they had, you know, they just told Anthony Bourdain

just be you and just do what you do,

do your best version of your show and they really just get out of the way

and it was fucking amazing. Yeah, yeah so they got out of his way they let him be

Yeah, they figured out how to do that you know know, Kamal Bell had a really good show too. Is that show still on?

What was that show called? I'm sorry, I forget the name of these shows.

But W Kamal Bell was really good at being like calm he's Shades of America shades of America really good at being calm like like talking to like K KKK people.

And he's black and he's a comic.

But he's just like a very nice guy.

He's a very nice guy, like a genuinely nice guy in real life.

And so when he's doing a show, even when he's confronted by

the most ignorant racist, and he can have conversations with them.

And then, you know, they're like, well,

you're not like the others you know

well that's the best kind of journalism you know you yeah you can

properly immerse yourself in those worlds yeah and CNN did that for a while you

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