So hello everybody. I am with Richard Rowland, who at this point doesn't need any introduction.

And we're really excited to go into our second part of the Grail symbolism.

We did the last video with a really great reaction.

And so Richard, take it away. Let's start us off.

Music This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

So So yeah, a lot of people really liked the last video.

We also got a little bit of just a small amount of controversy that was sparked by the last video as well, which is always exciting to see.

And I want to reiterate that one of the reasons, actually, I recorded a podcast

episode about this with somebody recently. And then when we got to the end, we realized that

neither of us had hit the record button. Oh, no. So now there's just a lost conversation out there.

And it was when it's over, the guy that I was recording with, he's a priest, he was really, really upbeat about it and really, you know, he's just like, listen, if this conversation isn't good enough for us to enjoy, then there's no point in doing it. So don't feel bad about it. Now we have a cool lost episode. But anyway, more about that maybe in the future. But one of the things we were talking about is one of the reasons that I'm so interested

in the Arthurian stories, in the Grail particularly, but in really all the Arthurian stuff.

I mean, I've got entire bookshelf over here, just mostly Arthurian stuff, two or three shelves,

is because I think that the Arthurian, I don't know, you want to call it a mythos or a cycle or because,

you know, it's like a group of legend. There's no canonical, you know, definitive. This is the

authoritative Arthur. But it, it kind of contains within itself everything that's good and noble,

but also everything that's a problem about being a Western person right and I really want to say that both the

good and the bad are in there I hope that you know as we're doing these Grail videos I mean I'm a Western

person you know I'm not anti-Western I'm just trying to sort of deal with where I am in in the world

and in history and I found the Grail legends to be really helpful to do. What was the

controversy? I don't even know. Oh, I there were some people some people are like, oh, well,

you're just you're just saying, you know, all these, you know, things. The West is terrible,

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