Welcome to November, you guys. It's kind of hard for me to say that, honestly, because I'm not, I mean, I love Thanksgiving, but this is the time of year that it kind of gets tough for me. It's tough for me as a gardener. It's tough for me as a person. And that's why I thought today's guest would be perfect for this time of year. Her name is Liz Zorab and she gardens in Wales.

This is the first time I've ever talked to a gardener who isn't in the continental United States.

And I thought that this was such a fun conversation. I started reading her book grounded over the

summer. And as I talk about with her later, I can't wait to finish the rest of it.

It's become one of my most treasured gardening books. We're going to be talking about a lot of

different things, especially when it comes to managing your time in the garden. This will apply,

especially if you do have a large space garden like I do, but even if you have a small space garden,

you may not have the time to do everything. You may not have the budget to do everything you want.

She started out with a zero budget and give some really unique ideas on how to upcycle

and use things that you may not have thought or possibilities. So many great things in this,

but I want you to make sure and listen

to the end because we talk about her struggle with seasonal effective disorder.

And even if we aren't officially struggling with seasonal effective disorder, but sometimes

we just find ourselves getting a little bit down or maybe we just start losing motivation.

I know that that happens to me.

I think you're going to love what she has to say about it because it's so helpful and freeing and

she gives some really great advice. So definitely be sure and listen to the end. Going into this part

of the season if you're in the Northern Hemisphere is an absolute must to be able to consider these thoughts the season if you're in the northern hemisphere is an absolute must to be able

to consider these thoughts, especially if you struggle this time of year. But besides that, Liz

grows a fantastic garden and she has had the most unique garden journey. I am so thrilled to

bring you this conversation. You are absolutely going to love it.

Welcome. I'm Jill and in 2013, I started my first garden as a new stay-at-home mom wanting to do my

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