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210 | Hal Brands: What Can the Cold War Teach Us About Modern Conflict with Russia and China?

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The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2022

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

For day six of The Realignment's near-daily Ukraine coverage, Marshall spoke with Hal Brands, author of The Twilight Struggle: What the Cold War Teaches About Great-Power Rivalry Today, John Hopkins University professor, AEI Resident Fellow, and Bloomberg columnist. They discussed America's successes and failures during the Cold War, how today's Russia and China differ from their 20th-century incarnations, what sacrifices a second cold war will demand, and more. SUPPORT/SEND US A TIP: https://buy.stripe.com/bIYdRx0gc6qjaEEcMM REALIGNMENT NEWSLETTER: https://therealignment.substack.com/ BOOKSHOP: https://bookshop.org/shop/therealignment

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0:00.0

Marshall here. Welcome back to the realignment.

0:05.1

Everyone, good morning. Welcome back to the show and our daily coverage of the Ukraine crisis.

0:11.1

A lot of folks have been asking questions about the Cold War, nuclear armageddon,

0:17.5

all these questions that those born in the 1990s and above had no idea what would matter to our lives today.

0:24.0

I want to do an episode on this question of the Cold War, what we can learn from it and what that

0:28.2

actually has to do with the current struggle we see, especially as China and Russia appear

0:32.8

increasingly tied together as part of this competition with the United States, Europe, and the

0:37.4

broader West. So I brought on Professor Hal Brands. He is a professor at Johns Hopkins University

0:44.2

and he just wrote a book, The Twilight Struggle, What the Cold War teaches us about great power

0:48.7

wherever we today. So if every episode in this daily series has a theme, this one is what are

0:54.2

the lessons from the Cold War, what do we do well, what do we do poorly, and how does that inform

0:59.2

how we should think about everything moving forward, especially when the stakes are so high with

1:03.7

the invocation of nuclear weapons. Quick note, this episode is going to be published early in the

1:08.9

morning and Sogrenai are going to tape the latest version of our back and forth discussion where we

1:15.6

will agree, disagree, everything in between. So if you can get us a comment, a question, a topic to

1:22.4

cover before 9.30am Eastern Standard Time. This morning, please do email us at reallampodatgmail.com,

1:30.2

quick other things, be sure to subscribe to the substack, Hal Brands has most well books, so you

1:35.1

could also go check out the book shop that we keep for this store, help support us, help support

1:40.9

independent publishers during this time where the industries are always struggling. Thirdly,

1:46.4

always love tips when the show does well and resonates with you, so do for someone.

1:50.0

Finally, huge thank you to Lincoln Novick for supporting our work. Let's go to the episode.

1:54.7

Hal Brands, welcome to the reallignment. Thanks for having me.

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