Hello and welcome to the psychology podcast with Dr Scott Barry Kaufman where we give you insights into the mind, brain, behavior, and creativity.

Each episode will feature a new guest who will stimulate your mind and give you a greater understanding of yourself, others, and the world we live in.

Thanks for listening and enjoy the podcast. Oh, Today we have Luke Smiley on the podcast. Luke is a personality researcher and

senior lecturer at the University of Melbourne, he runs the Personality Processes Lab.

Luke?

Hey, Scott. Great to have you on here.

Hey, thanks for having me.

Yeah, so you teach a course in happiness, is that right?

I teach across several courses largely in personality and social psychology, but in some of those subjects, yeah, teach some

lectures into well-being and happiness and I've run a few seminars on that.

Yeah, and it's great that they have Professor Smiley in the course.

Yes, it's a nice little coincidence.

Big attraction to the course.

I find a research really quite fascinating and debunking a lot of the myths about personality variation, particularly in the introversion, extra version dimension. I'm very interested in the core aspects differentiating introverts from

experts because people talk about all these kinds of differences in a

not convinced these things in the popular media really are the core essential aspects. I thought today we could really get to the nitty gritty of this.

Yeah, yeah, sounds good. I mean that's something that interests me as well the disconnect between the popular conception of what

extroversion introversion is which is it's really probably the personality trait that's become a

household name and yet the way in which it's defined in the popular sphere is is is

well it differs from one person to another but it also differs sharply with the

definition that's being used in psychological science so I think there's a lot of

confusion around the

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