21: Spycops Like Us
The Alexei Sayle Podcast
Alexei Sayle and Talal Karkouti
4.8 • 610 Ratings
🗓️ 4 February 2022
⏱️ 76 minutes
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Summary
Then Alexei meets Helen Steel, one victim of the intimate and callous violations of the undercover officers. She kindly shares her story with us.
Here are the links Helen mentions:
Police Spies Out of Lives
Undercover Research Group
Campaign Opposing Police Surveillance
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, everybody. |
| 0:12.3 | Welcome to the Alexis L podcast. |
| 0:14.6 | And usually emails that come up you out of the blue from solicitors are unwelcome. |
| 0:23.7 | The inquiry into the animal impersonator scandal. |
| 0:31.4 | I don't know where I'm going to go with that. |
| 0:32.7 | It is a whole heap of trouble I could get myself into improvising around that theme. |
| 0:38.1 | But a while ago, in the middle, I think of last year, I got an email from a solicitor called Paul |
| 0:44.1 | Heron telling me about, basically informing me about how I had been inspired on by a special branch. |
| 0:54.4 | And I had a special branch file. |
| 0:56.6 | So Paul is now. |
| 0:58.4 | And also, Paul is kind of central to the whole Spike-Ops inquiry, which we will get into. |
| 1:06.4 | And Paul is with me now. |
| 1:07.5 | So hi, Paul. |
| 1:08.7 | Hey, Alexi. |
| 1:09.4 | How are you doing? |
| 1:10.3 | I'm all right. Thank you. So tell me about this file that you discovered. |
| 1:15.7 | Well, it wasn't so much a file as such. |
| 1:21.6 | The best way to describe it is during the course of the undercover policing inquiry, public disclosure, which is all available |
| 1:34.5 | on their website, it lists all kinds of meetings that undercover officers attended. Sometimes they |
| 1:43.3 | attended gigs and parties. |
| 1:46.4 | And your name was mentioned publicly here, |
| 1:51.3 | which is disclosed on the website of the public inquiry. |
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