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Welcome to the fourth episode of the rest of this politics question time with me Rory Stewart

and me Alistair Campbell which has landed in your podcast feeds on the sixth anniversary of the

Brexit referendum. What are you doing to celebrate the occasion Alistair? Well I am reading the new

European whose front page lists all the Brexit benefits in full. There's a blank white page and

then reading the six pages inside about all the things that have gone wrong. What about you?

One of the things I keep thinking about obviously obsessively is that there were options for

a better Brexit. I mean I think that a customs union solution, even the kind of backstop

solution that Theresa May proposed would have been much much easier for British businesses

dealing with Europe and most importantly of all would have avoided the problems that we're now

facing around borders in the Irish and the Irish border because by keeping us in a single customs

territory there wouldn't have been need for those customs checks. There might have had to be some

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