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The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast

21: Make It Stick Author Peter Brown

The Cult of Pedagogy Podcast

Jennifer Gonzalez

Education

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2015

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Are we taking the wrong approach to learning? The book "Make It Stick" presents new research that shows how some of our most common studying and teaching practices don't have any real research to support them. In this episode, I talk to one of the book's authors, Peter Brown, about some of the book's most important takeaways.

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0:00.0

This is Jennifer Gonzalez welcoming you to episode 21 of the Cult of Pedagogy

0:04.6

podcast. In this episode I interview Peter Brown, one of the authors of our

0:09.0

summer 2015 book pick Make It Stick.

0:22.5

This summer I was not planning on doing a book study. Last summer I did two and I

0:28.4

thought this summer I would take a break. But then I came across this book called

0:33.4

Make It Stick and not only did the cover grab me because it did not look like a

0:37.5

typical education book. It was just a simple blue cover with a gold star on it.

0:41.2

But then I saw all the reviews. It had a ton of five star reviews and then I

0:46.1

found out that the authors were a team of three people, two cognitive

0:50.0

psychologists and a novelist and I thought that's really different too. So then

0:55.4

I read about the book's premise and that is what really sold me. So here is the

0:59.8

premise of the book. Again the book is called Make It Stick, the science of

1:03.6

successful learning. Here's the basic idea of this book. What we believe about

1:08.7

learning and what most people do to study and learn material is basically wrong.

1:14.3

It is not backed by science. So here's an example. For a lot of us in college the

1:21.1

way we would study would be to just open up the textbook and read and reread and

1:25.6

highlight and reread some more. It turns out that's actually not the most

1:30.4

effective way to learn. What actually is more effective and this is just one

1:35.1

concept I'm going to give you from the book is frequent retrieval practice. So

1:39.2

basically self-quizzing and teachers can use this too instead of teaching and

1:44.2

teaching and teaching and teaching and then giving a quiz or a test at the end

1:50.2

of a long period of time. We can actually help our students learn by

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