Welcome back to the Ghost Bunny podcast. I'm your host, Bridget Markort, with a brand new episode for you guys.

Today, I'm welcoming back Jeff Belanger. You guys know how much I love a theme. And I really wanted to do like a President's Day theme, a White House theme, something like along those lines. And when I was researching that, who comes out that wrote a book about

ghosts in the White House is Jeff Belanger? And I'm like, I already had him on the podcast, but I'm

dying to know all these stories. So you know I love a good theme and I had to have him back on.

So who is Jeff in case you don't remember? Jeff Belanger is one of the most visible and

prolific researchers of folklore and legends today.

He's a natural storyteller. He's the award-winning Emmy-nominated host, writer, and producer of the New England Legends series on PBS and Amazon Prime, and is the author of over a dozen books published in six languages, including his holiday bestseller,

The Fright Before Christmas, Surviving Crampus, and Other Yuletide Monsters.

He also hosts the award-winning New England Legends Weekly Podcast, and his latest venture

is the launch of a new print publication called Shadowzine, where each month they explore

some aspect of the bizarre and

the unexplained. You can also check out his audiobook, Who's Haunting the White House,

the President's Mansion, and the ghosts who live there. And I can't wait to talk to him

all about it today. So let's welcome him back. Jeff, welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me. Yes. I was saying at the beginning

when I was reading your bio that I, so I love everything themed. And I was like, oh, I really need to do a

President's Day episode. I would love to do one about Ghost of the White House because we all know

it's haunted. We just can't get in there to investigate.

And yet, yet. And I was like, who could I talk to about that? And I knew that you had written something. I wasn't even sure what exactly at first on it. But then I was like, oh, well, I just had him on. I don't want to bother him again to come on this. But then I was researching. I'm like, no, he literally wrote the book about this.

I have to ask Jeff if he'll come back on.

Yeah. No, it's, it's, have you ever been to the White House? I have only been on the outside. I have not gone inside. Well, as, as an American taxpayer, you are part owner. So, um, you should check on your property once in a while, you know. It's an amazing place.

I was there as a kid. And then when I was working on this book, I got the chance to go inside and actually interview some of the staff. I had arranged it. And I was blown away at how forthcoming the staff

were about the ghosts. Like they were amazing. They would say they would talk about the history. Oh, this painting was by so-and-so. This, you know, desk was a gift of king whoever and it's haunted. And I was just like, wait, wait, what? You know, they just were very forthcoming, very open. That's amazing because, I mean, so often, as we all know, we get the opposite

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