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Writing Excuses

21.07: Deep Dive- “With Her Serpent Locks”

Writing Excuses

Mary Robinette Kowal, DongWon Song, Erin Roberts, Dan Wells, and Howard Tayler

Business, Careers, Fiction

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 February 2026

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

To celebrate Mary Robinette’s birthday today (!!), she is taking us inside the craft (and emotional engine) of her short story “With Her Serpent Locks,” using it as a case study in beginnings, control, and creative “leveling up.” Our hosts dig into grounding the reader through myth, pattern, and delayed information, and how a familiar framework can make readers feel both clever and cared for. The conversation unpacks how intentional choices—like withholding names, structuring scenes around question words, and planting details early—create trust and momentum. Along the way, we talk honestly about what it feels like when craft skills become internalized and a story finally clicks into ease. Homework: Take a strong emotion you’ve felt recently and describe it as a metaphor. Then use that metaphor as a writing prompt. Final WXR Cruise! Our final WXR cruise sets sail for Alaska in September 2026—get your tickets here! Credits: Your hosts for this episode were Marshall Carr, Erin Roberts, DongWon Song, and Mary Robinette Kowal. It was produced by Emma Reynolds, recorded by Marshall Carr, Jr., and mastered by Alex Jackson. Join Our Writing Community! Writing Retreats Newsletter Patreon Instagram Threads Bluesky TikTok YouTube Facebook Our Sponsors: * Check out HomeServe and use my code homeserve.com/excuses for a great deal: https://www.homeserve.com * Check out Talkiatry and use my code Talkiatry.com/WX for a great deal: https://www.talkiatry.com Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/writing-excuses2130/donations Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

This episode of writing excuses has been brought to you by our listeners, patrons, and friends.

0:05.6

If you would like to learn how to support this podcast, visit www.com

0:11.8

slash writing excuses.

0:15.1

Season 21, episode 7.

0:19.3

This is writing excuses.

0:22.1

Deep dive with their serpent locks.

0:24.3

Tools not rules.

0:25.7

Four writers, buy writers.

0:27.1

I'm Mary Robinette.

0:28.1

I'm Don Lon.

0:28.7

I'm Marshall.

0:29.4

I'm Aaron.

0:30.3

And we are very happy that Marshall has joined us.

0:33.2

He's usually on the other side of the microphone, being our engineer.

0:36.9

But today is my birthday.

0:40.1

Happy birthday.

0:43.0

So I often think about this as leveling up day.

0:47.0

I am now a level 57 human.

0:50.6

I love that.

0:52.0

It makes me feel powerful in a way that I'm 57 years old, does not.

0:59.3

Because then I can think about the new gear that I get and the tools that I get.

1:04.8

And for my birthday, one of the things that I often do is I do what I call a party favor,

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