What I'm the most excited about is there's going to be a really bad downturn. If you don't have earnings or ebita, there is no floor in a lot of these things.

AI is not going to be about the next call center company or the next work day. Bight Dance is the most advanced AI company in the world.

Don't count China out. I bet they win the AI world. Don't underestimate like Chinese creativeness and like indiidity figure out how to, like, reverse engineer and engineer things in much cheaper ways that Americans can do. Buying is glamorous. Selling is the job. There's 50% too many VCs. 50% of people in this industry that actually probably add negative value to companies. This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stebbings. And for the show today, we have Mitchell

at Lead Edge joining us. I freaking love Mitchell, and I'll tell you why. In a world of fluff

and framework thinking investors, Mitchell Green is a moneymaker. Mitchell has co-led or led

investments in insane companies like Ali Barbar, Benchling, bite dance, Grafana, among many

others, across different cycles. He's shown an ability to make money, real DPI, unlike anyone

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