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🗓️ 7 August 2025
⏱️ 81 minutes
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Agenda:
00:00 – The Worst IPO Mis-Pricing Ever: What Really Happened at Figma
02:30 – Fidelity vs Founders: How Important is Fidelity When Going Public
07:00 – Why Founders Secretly Want a Pop, Even If It Makes Them Look Stupid
10:15 – The Truth Behind the $3B Figma "Left on the Table"
14:00 – Direct Listings vs IPOs: Should Figma Have Gone Direct
23:00 – CEO Compensation is Broken, Brian Halligan Doesn’t Hold Back
29:00 – The New Normal: Growth Rounds with Elon-Style Moonshot Packages
33:00 – Is Canva Next? Why Founders Should "Run, Forrest, Run" to the NASDAQ
36:00 – The Case for Going Public: VCs Are a Bigger Pain Than Public Markets
44:00 – Can AI Even Work for SMBs? Why No One’s Cracked the Code (Yet)
51:00 – Meta’s Monster Quarter: Growth, Cash Burn, and the Real AI Strategy
56:00 – CEO of the Year? Why Jensen Huang Leaves Zuck & Satya in the Dust
1:00:00 – Cognition's $15B Deal & Mass Layoffs: The Most Savage M&A Move of 2025
1:07:00 – Ramp’s $22B Raise: Genius Move or Suicide Round?
1:09:00 – CRV Shrinks, Benchmark’s Bet, and the Future of Venture Strategy
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0:00.0 | The people who said, oh, $3 billion on the table, the 98 price only happened because the IPO happened at 38. |
0:07.1 | It's exactly what you said, Harry. |
0:08.9 | The discussion they were having on the day was, let's call it the Halligan discussion of do I go two bucks more and exclude fidelity or two bucks less and take fidelity? |
0:17.5 | And had someone walked in and said, I know this IPO is going to price at |
0:22.7 | 100 bucks a share to open tomorrow morning. Let's raise at 80. They wouldn't have had a book because |
0:27.5 | no one has bid at that thing. So that money wasn't accessible. Run for us run. The market's wide |
0:33.1 | open. The valuations are good. There's a lot of demand. It's very seasonal. If I were Canva, it's an amazing company. I would be lining everything up to go public. This is 20VC with me, Harry Stebbings, and it's my favorite show of the week, Jason Lemkin, Roryo Driscoll, and we have our first VIP guest. We have Brian Halligan, founder of HubSpot, joining us. Honestly, today, we shoot the ship |
0:55.6 | breaking down Figma. What happened? Was it the greatest mispricing in history? We then discuss |
1:00.6 | meta and Microsoft's blowout quarters, what it means for them moving forward. This was so much |
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