reasonable men sort of live within the boundaries and so you need unreasonable men to change

things and move the world forward. One of the only predictions I think I would make accurately is 10 years

from now will look back and say, man, you remember that era? That was crazy. Most of the things

are vastly overvalued. Five years from now, we'll have more engineers working for our company than we

do today. More software developers working for our companies. We will create far more.

They will be more efficient. My favorite quote of Tobs is he once told me that the founder's job is to

fight the entropy of ambition. This is 20 VC with me, Harry Stebbings. Now, I started 20 VC 11 years ago

to have the chance to interview incredible entrepreneurs like the one we have sitting down with us today.

He is one of the greats, Mike Cannon Brooks, co-founder and CEO of Atlassian, the $50 billion software

giant behind products like Jira, Confluence and Trello.

Since founding the company in 2002, he's scaled Atlassian to over 300,000 customers, generating more than $5 billion

for the year of 2025 in annual revenue.

Atlassian now employs over 10,000 people and is one of the most successful bootstrapped

IPO stories in tech history.

He's also this super active climate investor and co-owner of several major sports teams.

This was so much fun for me to do and a real childhood tick the box moment in my journey.

But before we dive into the show today, I love seeing the team come together to make this show

happen. What I don't love is trying to keep track of all the information, the data and the

projects that we're working on across dozens of platforms, products and tools. That's why we use

Coda, the all-in-one collaborative workspace that's helped 50,000 teams all over the world get on

the same page. Offering the flexibility of docs with the structure of spreadsheets, Coda facilitates deeper teamwork

and quicker creativity, and their turnkey AI solution, the intelligence of Coda brain, is a game

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