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Design Matters with Debbie Millman

20th Anniversary celebration with legendary artists Bisa Butler, Deborah Kass, Marilyn Minter, Amy Sherald, and Ai Weiwei

Design Matters with Debbie Millman

Design Matters Media

Arts, Design

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 September 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

To celebrate 20 years of Design Matters, Debbie Millman revisits highlights from her conversations with groundbreaking artists Bisa Butler, Deborah Kass, Marilyn Minter, Amy Sherald, and Ai Weiwei. This anniversary collection brings together the voices of five visionaries whose work challenges conventions, sparks dialogue, and redefines the role of art in our culture.



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0:00.0

Hello there. This is Debbie Millman, and I'm so excited to share something wonderful with you. This month, I am featured on Apple Podcasts as one of their creators we love. This is a big time honor for me, and I'm so thrilled in the ways that Apple has acknowledged the 20 years I've been podcasting Design Matters.

0:23.2

A big thank you to all of my friends at Apple Podcasts for their generosity and support for the last two decades.

0:31.5

In the mid-70s, what was happening in the art world was thrilling.

0:38.0

I had like three people started crying while they were looking at the work.

0:40.6

And I was like, what is wrong with y'all?

0:41.9

Writing is difficult.

0:43.7

But to do artists, it's just too easy for me to do it.

0:51.0

From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Milman.

0:58.0

On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

1:07.3

On this episode, in celebration of the 20th anniversary of Design Matters, we'll hear from some of the many visual artists that Debbie has interviewed over the years.

1:16.5

I'm using pieces of fabric to describe her, not just because they're pretty.

1:22.0

I like porn. It turned me on.

1:32.9

Yeah. Hello, friends.

1:36.1

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1:40.5

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1:44.5

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1:54.5

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2:02.0

My pick.

2:03.8

Slow-cooked beef rougou.

2:06.2

Nocky and 10 to stem broccoli.

2:13.7

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2:16.2

Dinner is served.

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