#2096 - Josh Dubin & Sheldon Johnson

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4.7 • 212.3K Ratings

🗓️ 1 February 2024

⏱️ 156 minutes

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Josh Dubin is the Executive Director of the Perlmutter Center for Legal Justice, a criminal justice reform advocate, and civil rights attorney. Sheldon Johnson is a criminal justice reform advocate. He works with at risk youth at the Queens Defenders in New York. https://cardozo.yu.edu/directory/josh-dubin Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Joe Rogan,
0:05.0	Experience.
0:06.0	Train by day Joe Rogan, all day.
0:10.0	All day. Okay, Mr. Dubein, good to see again, sir.
0:15.0	Mr. Rogan.
0:17.0	Always, always a pleasure.
0:19.0	Introduce your friend.
0:20.0	This is my friend, my client, my brother, Sheldon Johnson.
0:25.0	I figured we'd do something a little bit different.
0:30.0	Typically, the person sitting to my right is someone that was wrongfully convicted.
0:37.0	So I don't want to bury the headline.
0:40.0	Sheldon is guilty.
0:42.0	And I thought it would be a real interesting conversation to
0:49.4	learn his
0:55.0	upbringing,
0:56.0	learn about the crime that he committed,
0:59.0	and hear the sentence he got,
1:02.0	which... hear the sentence he got which I don't want to shade it and inject my opinion I have a
1:10.4	strong one but it's pretty astounding how he was treated by the system.
1:18.4	I think that there's a real interesting twist that happens at his sentencing and I know I've said this before and it
1:27.8	probably sounds repetitive but another miracle sitting to my right just like a marvelous human being who was basically
1:36.1	told by a judge by an African American judge that you don't matter, you don't count, and I'm going to throw your life away for
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