209: The Right’s Fantasy Super-Villain (w/Renee Diresta)

Conspirituality

Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, Julian Walker

Spirituality, Social Sciences, Religion & Spirituality, Science, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.2 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2024

⏱️ 89 minutes

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We talked to Renee Diresta, when she in the middle of a life-changing crisis. Elon Musk’s hand-picked "journalists" were testifying in front of Congress as part of the “Twitter Files.” Matt Taibbi and Michael Shellenberger sounded the alarm about a supposedly vast conspiracy between think tanks, big tech companies, and government intelligence agencies to censor the free speech of conservative Americans. They referred to that conspiracy as the “Censorship Industry Complex," identifying its leader as a shadowy former CIA intern named Renee Diresta. The reality is that Diresta was involved in a 2020 academic project called the Election Integrity Partnership, which studied then gave reports on viral social media content steeped in misinformation. She joins us to discuss her new book, Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Now propaganda doesn't have to be from the top down because if you look at
0:03.9	propaganda as information produced in response to a system of incentives a lot of
0:09.1	people are now incentivized to use the tools of mass communication on the internet
0:13.4	to make their political point of view, the dominant one,
0:16.8	to get their message out there into the world.
0:19.0	And so that capacity to have this ability to mass message as mass broadcast.
0:25.0	It's no longer as cut and dry as the official institutional narrative
0:31.0	and then the sort of noble chatter of the public.
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