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Hello everybody welcome to the Marriage Be Hard Conversations podcast. I am Melissa.

I am Kevin Allen Frederick's junior.

I don't think I did that on the last episode but that's okay.

Hopefully you know who we're not a junior so we're equal.

There's no we're all here.

I believed it too I was like wow I didn't know that. I didn't know either. It just happened right now.

This is a podcast based off of our book of the same title that's available everywhere and we sit down and talk to some of our favorite

couples out no our favorite people that's what I was hoping you you right baby I'll let you

down I'll make it up to you later. Hello.

Some of our favorite people, and we just talk about life,

we talk about love, we talk about relationships,

and sometimes that looks like the relationship with yourself,

and sometimes that looks like the relationship with others

namely your partner or your spouse it could sometimes be the relationship with

church because we be going through what that woman called a faith crises you

hear me anyway that's the top of another day. Today we have

two very special guests Maddie and Chris Jay I also want to say and I won't tell the other guests that I said this, you guys have the best setup of anybody we've ever had.

And we've had...

We've had the CEO of YouTube in this room, and I'm not even kidding kidding you your setup was better than hers.

He's about your camera set up. Oh thank you so much.

Cam can tell you there's is better than Susan.

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