Hey, what's up? Just a quick reminder, if you have not already figured it out, the grit with

Chas Smith has been migrated over onto its own feed. So open up your podcast app, search for the

grit, and then subscribe to the show there. That's the only place you can now find it. I'm revitalizing

the debate format. Next week, we're going to have Devin Howard steps in the ring

against Chaz Smith.

We're going to talk eggs.

We're going to talk foiling.

We're going to talk longboard tour.

All sorts of stuff.

So look forward to that next week on the grit.

But again, you can only find it

on its own podcast feed.

So you have to subscribe to that show in addition to this show.

All right.

That'll go live Monday, March 19th.

So look forward to that and enjoy today's show.

And it's just crazy to think back 21 years ago and think, wow, I mean, at 10 years old, I had a goal to simply surf.

But that thing manifested into a career that most of my teachers were slapping me on the wrist saying I was a fool to follow.

There was no future in.

And that was the voice of Alex Gray telling us about how he remembers the very first

wave he ever rode and how it dictated the rest of his life and career path.

Alex's career has been supported by Spy. He's one of their athletes, along with Coco

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