209: Controversial Christian Leaders Who Have Influenced Us // The Pearls, Vision Forum, Bill Gothard, Beth Moore, Mark Driscoll
Now That We're A Family
Elisha and Katie Voetberg
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🗓️ 16 May 2023
⏱️ 69 minutes
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Summary
Today we’re sharing with you the most influential preachers and Bible teachers in our lives. Some of these may be controversial…ok, maybe all of them…just a warning :)
To list off a few that we discuss:
- Dave Hunt - Shield of Faith ministries
- Douglas Phillips - Vision Forum
- Bill Gothard/ATI/IBLT
- Michael & Debbie Pearl - No Greater Joy
- Lifeway Bible studies
- Mark Driscoll - Mars Hill Church
- John Piper
- Nancy Campell
- Francis Chan
- Voddie Baucham
- The Bible Project podcast- Phylicia Masonheimer
- Canon Press
Overall, we want to be able to draw from a wide variety of resources and tools when it comes to educating our children, of course in Scripture and also growing up in the culture and practical things. Our parents did such wise job!. They didn’t elevate man. They elevated God’s Word. We took everything back to Scripture. We never thought a man, leader, pastor or church was infallible. God is keeping us and He’s the only one keeping us. We never had an idolization of a certain person and watched them fall from grace and thought our world was rocked.
The Lord is so gracious and faithful! So many people have spoken into our lives. These are the big ones that you are going to know about. Obviously there are a lot of individuals that don’t have big ministries or aren’t easy to pin down on paper exactly what they believe. God has been so gracious to bring in different teaching and wisdom to be able to compare and think “I used to think that and now I think this.” It’s all a part of our walk. It’s all about growing in our faith. Some of these teachers we don’t agree with now, but the foundation of their teaching has really helped us to understand teaching that we have come under later in life. It can make you aware of things that you might not have been aware of before or to prove to be a helpful comparison.
The one thing we can point to as being the rock is God’s faithfulness and the infallibility of God’s Word. We want that to be our reference point. When we are reading Christian literature, we want to have God’s Word on our heart and mind and that be the standard. Every single one of these people that we have listed off have one thing in common - they are fallen, just like all of us! It makes you so grateful for the Word of God.
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| 0:00.0 | I could have been led astray probably if I would have cleaned too closely to any one of these people and you can in retrospect |
| 0:07.5 | Say, oh, this isn't helpful. That's not biblical. This is not you know orthodox |
| 0:12.9 | Whatever you can go back and it make all those judgments, and I think we should |
| 0:16.4 | I don't think that we should go forward saying well, you know what? |
| 0:19.0 | This was helpful to me if you come to the knowledge of something being |
| 0:23.3 | Dangerous or not correct theologically then I think we do need to take responsibility for that and move beyond it |
| 0:29.4 | You know or or or make that statement to your kids and be like hey, we're not going to have this in our home |
| 0:33.0 | It's a lot more challenging to have discernment and to see what the big-time or |
| 0:37.2 | Implications are which I think is a big responsibility as a parent that we need to take seriously |
| 0:40.5 | Something that I find that I found that I have found more and more and more since being married to Elisha |
| 0:46.3 | is |
| 0:47.5 | So many studies takes scripture out of context and then apply it where it sounds good and it totally makes sense |
| 0:55.4 | Is you're going through the study until you go and you read the passage in this full context and then you're like |
| 1:00.6 | Oh, that is not who they're talking to at all or that is not what they're talking about at all or stuff like that |
| 1:05.9 | Howdy folks welcome back to the podcast |
| 1:08.3 | Here we are once again back in our beloved garage where we have so many memories |
| 1:14.1 | so much history has occurred right here in this garage and |
| 1:18.0 | The reason for us being back here in the garage is because |
| 1:21.7 | Summer's crazy. We've been running two-in-fro across the Westland and |
| 1:26.3 | We're getting behind on episodes and so it's nap time here in our home and we need to get it need to get an episode out |
| 1:32.6 | So today we are going to be sharing with you the most influential |
| 1:37.8 | preachers and Bible teachers in our lives and |
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