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There are still things from that period of your career I remember so vividly like the idea by say it's going to a red lobster I remember that.

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Going to want to stay right here and give this one a spin first because this week's guests might not have a gold jacket but that does not mean that this conversation is not another total banger spoiler alert it absolutely is my guess this week is the best selling author of numerous books including his latest the one we're talking about right now the 90s a book my guest this week is Chuck Closterman.

If you do not know Chuck you're about to be blown away because my man is extremely intelligent extremely knowledgeable extremely engaging he's just different he knows pop culture he knows music he knows sports he knows politics he pretty much knows it all and as you're about to find out he knows all about the jungle I am incredibly fired up for you to hear this conversation so let's not waste another second and let's get right to it it's app 209.

With best selling author Chuck Closterman and it's coming at you right now.

So Chuck it's been a moment or two since you and I've got together so it's great to talk to you thank you so much for making time for this how are you and yours before we get started.

I mean my wife's a writer and I'm a writer so during this whole pandemic we were probably more well positioned to deal with the most people because we could be with our kids all day and control our schedule and I live in Portland Oregon now kind of on the outskirts of town so relative to the rest of the world great I mean it was still an extremely difficult time probably the hardest year of my adult life for sure but I'm very good how are you doing I'm doing great I'm doing great I'm

kind of like you I was kind of fortunate in the sense that we are set up in in a small environment a small work environment so we were for whatever reason and I have no idea why this is what we were deemed necessary and we were able to continue doing what we normally do so there wasn't what changed there so that was nice so I agree with you but let me ask you your 12th book is out right now and it's entitled simply the 90s a book it's a fascinating decade to say the least what was it like for you to take this on and go back and write about the 90s specifically.

Well you know in some ways just I guess referencing what we just discussed it was kind of wonderful to transport back in time for five or six hours a day what I would do I wrote this during you know 2020 mostly I would get up at about five and I would go out to my office and from five until 10 I would just sort of exist in the past and then at 10 o'clock I was sort of re-enter reality which of course was not yeah it was complicated and worrisome and the assailant.

So I would be assumingly just one catastrophe after another but to be able to sort of transport back to that time a little bit every day I think probably kind of helped me feel mentally okay during this period.

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