Women used to say things to her like, I know abortion is wrong, but I just can't have a baby right now.

And then my wife used to say, what do you call what's in you? Women spontaneously say, well, I call it a baby. But that made it possible for my wife to say, then it sounds like the real issue for you isn't whether you can have a baby right now, but what you're going to do with the one you say you've already got. And you don't have to tell them that.

You can let them tell you that.

And you can already got. And you don't have to tell them that.

You can let them tell you that.

And you can just help highlight that by asking questions to get them to state the obvious.

Welcome back to James Popery.

I'm Joe Heschmire.

And today I want to share with you a 2011 talk that I heard many years ago that totally changed

how I approach evangelization and

apologetics and which I find myself mentally going back to pretty frequently.

For a half-hour talk, the sheer number of times where some line from the talk is very

relevant and pops into mind in a critical moment.

It's incredible the impact it's had on me these now 14 years later.

So I wanted to share it with you. It's by Jay Buttigiewski. And it's on the topic of what's

called natural law. And I was reminded of it because someone asked me a question about natural law

enrollments two yesterday. And so I mentioned the talk and I said this. He gives a great talk

at I believe Westmore College many years ago. He gives a great talk at I believe

Westmore College many years ago. I might, I might do an upcoming video where I just unpack

this because I think this is so beautiful. I would love to sort of take these principles of

like how we can use natural law for evangelization. Okay, so first things first, yes, I'm wearing

the same shirt that I wore yesterday. In my defense, I forgot I was going to be on camera both days and thought I could get away with it. You know, it looks clean. But second, and more importantly, it is in fact a talk he gave at Westmont College. It's a chapel talk, like a reflection. They invited him in to come and speak to the students. And he spoke on a suburbure that he's actually written

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