So I did something interesting that I'd like to share with you, and I know you've been doing it as well.

Can we just have a meandering conversation about a weird thing?

Well, when you set it up like that, it sounds like it's going to be boring and dumb, but I think I know what the topic is and I don't think it's going to beander at all. I think it's going to be interesting.

Yeah. Do you remember what was happening in the first phone call we ever had, you and I?

I remember exactly what was happening. You were cleaning out your garage, not metaphorically.

Maybe metaphorically, but literally you were cleaning out your garage, not metaphorically. Oh, maybe metaphorically, but literally you were

cleaning out your garage and I walked to this plateau kind of on the backside of my house there

in Lander, Wyoming and the elk had come down out of the mountains and were in the field down

there. I watched the sun go down. I chatted with you and I watched the elk grazing in that field. We had a nice talk. Do you remember us sizing each other up? Do you remember what that was like? That was interesting, wasn't it? Yeah, I didn't really understand YouTube or the internet. And I hadn't fully connected the dots at that point on just that, oh, no, I've actually seen things that you've

done. I mean, we literally just bounced a few messages back and forth on Twitter. I think that

was it. I did not know what I was getting or what we were doing. It was just, you know, a friendly

phone call with somebody who seemed friendly. I think we were having a conversation in deciding whether or not we wanted to be friends. That was pretty, I remember it. Oh, I don't think that. You announced it at about the three-quarter mark of the thing, like a person with a disorder. Yeah. Oh, I remember that. Have you heard the term Rism with a tizzle? I'm like, well, yeah, clearly, dude. have you heard Rism with a tism?

No, dude. Have you heard Rizum with a tism? No, I don't know what you're talking about at all, but it sounds offensive. It is offensive. So there's a... Okay, all right. There's a, you know what Riz is, right? Yes. You do? Yes. Okay. You want to ask me some more questions like that? No, we're not going to talk about that kind of stuff. Urban Dictionary or other slang. All right. So Riz, meaning charisma. So Riz is like when you're basically, back in the day, we'd call like, oh man, he's mackin on her meaning he is trying oh my goodness i know right that's a deep deston sandlin it's a deep cut right

i never i would have dude that term that little tiny fragment of memory in my brain was hanging

on by the tiniest of threads all frayed and ready to

just snap and go away into the abyss of forgetfulness and now you've renewed it for at least a

decade. Is it macing on someone? Are you kidding? Yeah. That was a thing people said once. You're

absolutely right. I can't argue. Yeah. Wow. I know, right? And then you had the Mac Daddy, like somebody that's really good at Macing on girls. The modern equivalent, of course. Chris Cross. That's where that's from, right? Jump! Yeah, so. Never mind you win. It is a meandering disaster. Yeah, yeah... What are we?

Never mind.

You win.

It is a meandering disaster.

You were right all along.

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