208 - Fixing Fragmentation with Justin Drake
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🗓️ 5 February 2024
⏱️ 115 minutes
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Summary
✨ DEBRIEF | Ryan and David unpacking the episode:
https://bankless.com/debrief-fragmentation
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The Ethereum Ecosystem is going through Fragmentation, can we make it more Composable?
We brought on Ethereum researcher Justin Drake to explore this question in detail.
We cover deep topics like Universal Synchronous Composability, Shared Sequencing and Based Rollups. Justin explores the solution for which might be Ethereum’s Hardest Challenge and its roadmap.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Intro
6:55 Ethereum’s Fragmentation Problem
10:00 The Solution
17:14 Composability Spectrum
23:57 Universal Synchronous Composability
30:32 Composability Features
36:25 Why Composability Matters
43:07 The Roadmap
46:52 What is Shared Sequencing?
1:03:38 A Shared Sequencing Paradigm
1:19:55 Shared Sequencing Solutions
1:30:25 Rollup Design
1:40:15 Based Rollup Roadmap
1:47:02 What’s Next
1:50:51 Timeline
1:53:10 Accessory Technologies
1:58:18 The Role of Blockspace
2:05:28 Outro
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RESOURCES
Justin Drake
https://twitter.com/drakefjustin
Justin Drake Episodes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-4Jn8p2Oeo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azjpYTB7PVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycK3AUTdl1w
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of Internet money and Internet finance. |
| 0:11.8 | This is Ryan John Adams. I'm here with David |
| 0:13.3 | Hoffman and we're here to help you become more bankless. Fixing |
| 0:18.1 | fragmentation. Ethereum roll-ups have a fragmentation problem. |
| 0:22.6 | All the liquidity is spread out. |
| 0:24.3 | Each roll-up is starting to feel a little bit isolated. |
| 0:27.4 | That has been the critique of Ethereum |
| 0:29.9 | to the last six months, and I don't think is an unfair critique. The question is how do we fix it? Can we fix it? |
| 0:36.3 | There are certainly a theorem skeptics out there that think a theorem is destined to always |
| 0:41.3 | remain fragmented. That is the trade-off with going to a roll-up-centric |
| 0:45.7 | roadmap. That's what Ethereum is on right now. But we have Justin Drake on the podcast today, |
| 0:49.6 | who takes the other side of that. Not only does he think a theorem will fix fragmentation. Also, it will achieve the |
| 0:55.7 | holy grail, something that he calls universal |
| 0:59.0 | synchronous composability. Don't worry. We explain what all of that is as we get into this episode. |
| 1:04.6 | There are three parts to it. Number one, we talk about the problem. Fragmentation. Why is it a problem? |
| 1:09.8 | Who is impacted by it? Number two, we talk about the solution that is shared sequencing and what that means. |
| 1:16.0 | And number three, we talked about based sequencing, why Justin Drake thinks |
| 1:21.0 | Ethereum layer one will become the de facto shared sequencer. |
| 1:24.9 | This in itself was an incredible insight for me, something I just uncovered in the last two weeks |
| 1:30.1 | or so, and seems relatively fresh from |
| 1:32.5 | Ethereum researchers as well. |
| 1:34.1 | There are a few core ideas that Justin really brought together |
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