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208. Curious Mind, Open Heart — A Conversation with Bill Turnbull and Kathy Clayton

Faith Matters

Faith Matters Foundation

Morality, Lds, Ethics, Mormonism, Latter-day Saint, The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints, Christianity, Philosophy, Mormon, Religion & Spirituality

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🗓️ 23 March 2024

⏱️ 74 minutes

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This week we sat down with Kathy Kipp Clayton and Bill Turnbull to talk about the fascinating chapters they contributed to a new book entitled No Division among You: Creating Unity in a Diverse Church. Bill, and his wife Susan, are two of Faith Matters’ co-founders. Kathy and her husband Whitney have served around the world on Church assignments for the past two decades. Whitney served in the presidency of the Seventy until his release in 2020. They now help supervise and often travel the world with the Tabernacle Choir. Kathy is an author and an education innovator.

In their essays, Kathy and Bill share how the everyday, sometimes uncomfortable situations we find ourselves in at Church can be a profound opportunity to get curious about what others are seeing, especially when we don’t see eye to eye with them. They talk through their own experiences learning to love people they didn’t expect to love, and finding ways to open themselves to questions rather than fear — to look at differences or aberrations from the norm as ways to connect.

At a time when in-person gatherings, clubs, and associations are in decline across society, these experiences we have with others at Church might be increasingly rare. We really hope you enjoy this conversation.

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Hey everyone, really quick before we get started, I wanted to mention a special event that's coming up in Salt Lake City on Palm Sunday, March 24, 2024.

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Our friends in the Salt Lake Central Steak, including Steak President Ben B. Hunan, who we interviewed in episode

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number 181, have been helping organize a Palm Sunday inter-denominational musical celebration

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of Christ taking place in the Salt Lake Tabernacle.

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This event will feature a full professional symphony

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orchestra and a 300-person choir from the Luke's Choral Society.

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This is a free community event, open to all, and done in an effort to strengthen our

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celebration of Holy Week and the reverence we share for the life of Jesus Christ.

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So please join us at the Tabernacle on Temple Square on March 24th at 7.30 p.m. for an evening of sacred music

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to usher in Holy Week. Everyone is welcome.

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Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters

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This week we sat down with Kathy Kipp Clayton and Bill Turnbull to talk about the fascinating chapters they contributed to a new book entitled no division among you

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Creating Unity in a Diverse Church.

1:04.0

Bill and his wife Susan are two of the Faith Matters co-founders,

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and Kathy and her husband Whitney who served in the presidency of the 70

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until 2020 have served around the world on church assignments for the past two decades.

1:14.8

They now supervise and often travel the world with the Tabernacle Choir.

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Kathy is an author and an education innovator.

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In their we don't see eye to eye with them. And they talk through their own experiences learning

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to love people that they didn't expect to love and finding ways to open themselves to

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questions rather than to fear, to look at differences or aberrations from the norm as

1:40.8

ways to connect. At a time when in-person gatherings, clubs and

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