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I was young, I was scared, I knew these people were powerful, I didn't know what would happen if I said no.

I didn't know what would happen if I reported them. That 16-year-old girl just let it happen.

And that was how I got into the abuse with Jeffrey.

Every time wexton's name was mentioned, Jeff Epstein's name was mentioned as his sort of

sister, logistic guy, or financial man, and everyone knew that Jeff Epstein spoke for less

wexton that he was empowered. Now, is he glorified that way? Is he a fixer, his foreseer? Is he a lover? I mean,

I suddenly is in charge of all wextoners, the finances and dealings.

Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI Profile, a former New York City prosecutor

and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And what to me today is...

Laura Richards, Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and Founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.

And it's a real shame that we can't be joined today by Lisa because she's super busy casting her magic on a new project.

Shame, but she'll be back with us, hopefully, when we next record because we've got so much to cover.

Yes, and she did actually supply us with questions from herself and from our listeners.

So Laura, now we're discussing episode two of the Wondering Podcast, the mysterious Mr. Epstein.

And this episode starts a little differently than the first episode.

We're sort of going to go back in time and learn where Jeffrey Epstein came from, how he developed, how he got to the place where he was, how he managed to make all that money and get all that power.

Yeah, and that really is a mystery, isn't it?

So we've called this gym with our work a psychological autopsy because we know that serial offenders don't just grow off trees and they don't just wake up one day and decide to do what they're doing.

There's normally a history and whatever we know is always just, as I always say, just tip of the iceberg.

So this is a case where it's like peeling an onion, but understanding his psychology, understanding where he came from, understanding things that were going on, you know, at the start of his life.

I think is really fascinating and hearing about other critical aspects of his business in inverted commas, business deals and things where other people have found responsible and culpable for certain things, but this guy he just seems to be like Teflon, as we call it.

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