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Okay. Do you struggle to live a disciplined life?

Do you ever feel like you lack self-control?

Do you associate having more discipline with having less fun?

If you answered yes to any of those questions, today's episode is for you. I'm talking to bestselling author Ryan Holiday.

Ryan is the author of many bestselling books, including ego is the enemy, stillness is the key,

courage is calling, and the obstacle is the way. Today we're talking about his

newest book, Discipline is Destiny. His book is already topping the bestseller lists,

and I'm not surprised. It's a really good book. In it, he describes how discipline is vital to

living your best life. But too often, we opt for what feels good right now rather than what's

best for us in the long term. Some of the things Ryan talks about today are how discipline can lead

to a happier life, where to start if you need to develop more self-discipline now, and why it's

important to be disciplined across all areas of your life. Make sure to stick around until

the end of the episode for The Therapist Take. It's the part of the show where I'll give you

my take on Ryan's strategies for building mental strength. So here's Ryan Holiday on how to develop

the self-discipline you need to lit your best life. Ryan Holiday, welcome to the Very Well Mind podcast.

Yeah, thanks for having me.

I first came across your work when I read Perennial Cellar,

which was a really good book that came into my life

probably at just a right moment.

When I wrote my first book,

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