207: Bees, Bulls, and Bad Decisions

The Shallow End

John Elliott and Lindsay Schnebly

Society & Culture, Comedy, History

4.9 • 612 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

What happens when humans push things just a little too far… and nature pushes back harder? In this wildly unpredictable episode of The Shallow End, we kick things off with a surreal, full-circle moment—meeting legendary singer-songwriter James Taylor and reflecting on unexpected life connections that somehow all collide at once. But then… things take a sharp turn. First up: a suburban Massachusetts eviction that spirals into absolute chaos when a beekeeper shows up with crates labeled “LIVE BEES”—and opens them. Thousands of bees. Deputies swarmed. Hospital visits. Courtroom drama. And one very big legal question: can bees be considered a weapon? Then, Kat drops in with a story that proves instant karma isn’t just a concept—it’s sometimes… deeply physical. A world-famous Spanish matador faces the unthinkable when a bullfight goes off script, delivering a brutal reminder that in a battle between man and beast, the outcome isn’t always guaranteed. And yes… it involves a horn. And yes… It’s exactly where you think. It’s a perfect storm of bizarre news, dark humor, and the kind of real-life absurdity that only The Shallow End can deliver. Make good choices… your life might depend on it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Welcome to True Spies.
0:02.0	The podcast that takes you deep inside the greatest secret missions of all time.
0:08.0	Suddenly out of the dark that's appeared in Laubman.
0:10.0	You'll meet the people who live life undercover.
0:13.0	What do they know? What are their skills?
0:16.0	And what would you do in their position?
0:18.0	Vengeance felt good.
0:20.0	Seeing these people pay for what they'd done felt righteous.
0:24.2	True spies from Spyscape Studios, wherever you get your podcasts.
0:31.4	It began long ago. Two young boys in an American town riding their bikes to school and Little League practice.
0:39.3	Over the years, the boys became fast friends, united in their love for stories where things would go horribly wrong.
0:48.3	Pour yourself a strong beverage and buckle up.
0:52.3	You're in the shallow end with Schnebly and Toff.
0:55.3	You know, Jethro, every once in a while, the world either collides or aligns in such a way
1:03.1	where you feel so many different parts of your life come down to one particular moment.
1:09.6	And I was blessed to have one of those moments last night in Redondo Beach at a concert venue
1:19.6	called Beach Life in which the headliner at the final act of the night was James Taylor. Now, I know that you are a huge J.T. fan,
1:30.7	and you share the whole obsession with Red Sox and everything in Boston and have long been a
1:37.6	fan of J.T. So I end up getting to meet James Taylor, which has been a bucket list item on my life for
1:46.6	probably 50 plus years.
1:49.5	Oh, that's the picture you sent me?
1:51.7	That's the picture I sent, which is me standing next, looking like a total geek.
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