Hey everybody. Welcome to Pink Shade. It's Thursday. And you know what that means. We're going to talk about things in pop culture maybe, but mostly we're going to talk Bravo. I've got my friends here, Gibson Johns, of Gabbing with Gibb, an expert I might say on

Bravo. How you doing? I'm doing well. How are you? I'm happy to be back on the pink shade.

Okay. Now listen, we've got lots to talk about. Okay. we do. There's a lot going on. Okay. Now, number one, I'm not a summer house girly, but I am following the drama. Okay. I did get a note on Spotify that I need to stop talking about it if I don't watch the show, but I disagree. What's it like following it, not watching the show? That's an interesting experience. It is because I have such a strong feeling that, like, Kyle is the victim. Only because I know the dynamics. I was like, okay, so he was friends with this guy. They were getting into, but people are like, you're completely wrong because he's an asshole.

I was like, oh, okay.

Well, here's the thing.

Two things can be true at once, you know.

Like, Kyle has mistreated Amanda through a lot of their relationship. He's been a bad husband and boyfriend to her over the years. Okay, okay. But also I think as we're seeing, especially watching the rest, the, you know, back half of the

season through a different lens, knowing what we know about Amanda and West, it has reframed

some of how, are a lot of how I think she has also contributed to the fracture and fallout of

their relationship. You know, she might not have done as many sort of big glaring things, but especially in,

you know, this season and maybe last season, like she, she's not, she's not helping the

situation, I would say.

But I don't think it excuses how he has treated her.

But there's a mutual contribution to the downfall of their relationship, I would say.

Okay.

So they were mutually responsible for, you know, getting separated, getting divorced.

In different ways, yeah.

In different ways.

But then she took it to the next level by hooking up with this guy that was her husband's friend and also her, one of her very close

friend's ex-boyfriend.

Yes.

Okay.

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