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When they are told to keep on praying and struggling until they feel that God has received them in degrees that's the ninth feces in Walther's distinction between law and gospel so why does he introduce that.

By talking about the real differences between Lutheran and reformed theology greetings and welcome to issues et cetera live on this Monday afternoon July the 24th time Todd Wilkin thanks for tuning us in we are continuing our series on the proper distinction between law.

And gospel with pastor will we didn't of the word of the Lord and doors forever then in our two of issues et cetera will be looking forward to Sunday morning according to the three year electionary the gospel reading has Jesus talking about a pearl and a field and a fish net and a scribe that has things that are old and new.

Master will we didn't is assistant pastor at St Paul Lutheran church in Hamill Illinois formally served as director of worship for the Lutheran church Missouri Senate he's author of the books celebrating the Saints thank praise serve and obey and see my savior's hands and he hosts the daily 15 minute verse by verse Bible study produced by Lutheran public radio called the word of the Lord and doors forever will welcome back thank you Todd so why does Walther begin when it first seems a very odd place and that is just kind of launching into the real.

differences between Lutheran and reformed theology well actually really starts right with with trying to say that for a lot of on thinking Lutherans there really aren't a lot of differences or that the differences are very external he starts out with this well you know that the real differences that the Lutherans when they pray the our father they say Fatal wounds or and when the reform say they say wounds are father so that's how that's where you find that or that Lutherans.

Use wafers for communion and the reformed use real bread which they break and Lutherans don't break the wafers so those little external things we're not the big differences and he says you know thanks be to God today everybody knows that these differences are big and he's going to go through and list several of them out but he lists them out as a prelude to this thesis because he wants to show that also in the way that the gospel is proclaimed from the pulpits of Lutheran churches versus the

pulpits of reformed churches there is a huge difference here and he believes and he's going to show that the reformed by their particular practice actually end up confounding line gospel by turning terrified sinners back to their own deeds rather than to the sure and certain deeds which God himself does in the means of grace so that's sort of the setup that he has there I think it would be worthwhile to actually run through what he actually

lists as the differences I mean if you were to talk to your average Lutheran today could they stand up and say well this is the difference between us and the reformed well first of all let's talk about who the reformed are because that's a big term and Walter and Lutherans in general use it in a peculiar way that most other Christians don't buy the reformed we tend to mean all of the classical Protestant churches which are not Lutheran so they can be quite

disparate among themselves the Methodists fall into this you'll see he'll specifically mention the Methodist disease working through this certainly the church that we call the reformed church in the United States falls into that the Presbyterians and to a certain extent the the low church Episcopalians fall into this same sort of category that's all what he would call the reformed church and that's very different from the church of the Lutheran confessions so he starts out with the Eucharist

which became the most obvious difference between the two churches what a Lutheran say we say what Jesus said about the bread and wine in the supper this is my body this is my blood we will not allow that to be minimized by being made a symbol or a sign or a token of something no Jesus said what he meant any meant what he said

and he even told us which body and blood it was the body and the blood that were given a shed for us for the forgiveness of our sin so there's a difference between the Lutherans and the reformed

in the 20th century there was a real attempt to try to bridge that gap and it was just papering over the difference finally in the long run when the Lutherans and the reformed come to agreement on the Lord's supper what always happens

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