205 - What's Next for Sasha Ayad, Stella O'Malley, and the Gender A Wider Lens Podcast?

Gender: A Wider Lens

Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley

Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Mental Health

4.6 • 961 Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Sasha and Stella come together for the finale episode of Gender: a Wider Lens, reflecting on four years of sharing conversations, psychological analysis, and interviews centered around the exploration of gender identity, the evolving cultural landscape, and the trans discourse. Together, they have produced over 200 episodes providing informative insights and practical approaches for listeners, whether they have loved ones questioning their gender, are professionals encountering or supporting gender-questioning youth, or individuals grappling with their own gender identity.

In this final conversation, Sasha and Stella reflect on some of their most memorable episodes and pivotal discussions, marking significant progressions in the evolving understanding of identity development and gender transition. They also share details about each of their new resources in development, as well as the new live and unfiltered sessions they will be hosting each month together.

It's been a remarkable progression - from early observations of unusual patterns with gender-questioning teens inspiring the opening episode of the show exploring identity vs. dysphoria, to interviews with professional pioneers in gender medicine, to conversations with parents, trans individuals, school professionals, clinicians, journalists, authors, researchers, doctors, lawyers, politicians, activists, whistleblowers, spouses of trans people, children of trans people, and a growing list of detransitioners each with their own unique story and insights - a wide lens of different perspectives, offering reflections on gender and the shifting public consciousness around social and medical transition.

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Stella O'Malley, a psychotherapist in Ireland.
0:04.0	And I'm Sasha Ayyad, an adolescent therapist in the United States.
0:08.0	And this is Gender, a Wider Lens, a podcast dedicated to the shifting concepts around gender in our contemporary culture.
0:16.0	Through in-depth interviews, personal stories, and psychological exploration, we seek to open up the discourse
0:22.7	around this hot-button issue. Join us as we look at gender from a wider lens.
0:30.9	Hi, Stella. How's it going, Sasha? This is... What is this? Is it bitter, sweet, sad? I don't know what it is.
0:39.8	It's all, it's, I think it's all the things. I mean, this, this is our official last episode
0:45.7	of Gender, a Wider Lens. A lot of people thought last week was our last episode, but that was our
0:51.9	last guest, and we spoke with Clementine.
0:54.7	And so today we're going to talk a little bit about her story, and we're going to talk about
0:58.8	the last four years and what's happening next for us.
1:03.2	And I think it definitely feels bittersweet.
1:08.6	Yeah.
1:09.3	Yeah.
1:10.2	You know, like Clementine's episode is really kind of reflective of how far
1:16.4	we've come from the first episode. Like Clementine is suing Johanna Olsen Kennedy. And, you know,
1:26.0	her episode, like Clementine's story was so agonizing, it was so awful,
1:31.2	it was so reflective of how, you know, the trans industry has lost its way.
1:35.7	And then I think back in 2020, it was, it's like we were different people.
1:40.5	Yeah.
1:41.4	Yeah, the fact that one of the biggest gender doctors in the U.S. is being sued really seems to reflect a big shift in the public consciousness, in the lives of people who have undergone gender affirming care. And yeah, like when we started this podcast in 2020, that would have
2:03.6	been totally unheard of. I mean, we were just trying to sound the alarm that like something fishy
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