In general my prediction would be that 2024 is the year where performance, you know, we end a year basically and performance stops being a differentiator.

Everybody will have figured out high performance.

Finally, now that we've learned how to modify nodes

everybody will like figure out in some way you know not everybody will be in

production few will be in production the best teams only but over the years

what's happening is at the best teams only. But over the years what's happening is that the best technology

that was considered a mode is finally starting to be, for lack of better work, democratized

and accessed by everyone.

Welcome to Bankless, where we explore the frontier of Ethereum's Layer 2 roll-ups.

Today on the show we have Georgios Constantinople, the CTO and researcher over at Paradise,

and Andrew Huang, CEO of Conduit.

Both of these extremely smart gentlemen have unique vantage points over the future of Ethereum's roll-ups that needs to be shared with the world.

Here is what you're going to hear on this episode today. What is the state of Ethereum's roll-ups in 2024? What's going right and what is still left to do? How will

roll-ups recompose with each other? What mechanisms are there to help with roll-up

composability? And do roll-up composability

and do roll-ups even need to compose with each other at all or is that narrative just totally overblown?

What about roll-up security?

Multicliant fraud proofs and multi-Z Provers, why Georgios thinks we get them this year, and why Georgios

things were entering a golden age of layer two experimentation.

I learned so much in this episode.

As soon as I'm done recording this intro, I'm going to go back and listen to it

Before we get into this episode though we disclose Ryan and I hold investments in some of the

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