Hi, listeners. This is Katie. Before we get into this episode, I wanted to give you a content warning that we are going to be discussing a Mormon true crime case. And it is quite sad and intense. So before we get into it, if you need to turn this off, go ahead and do so. I also wanted to make some

corrections. So when we were talking, Sarah was reading some tweets from someone named Shannon Watts,

and I mistakenly conflated that name with Shannon Watts, who was tragically killed by her husband. They are different people.

The Shannon Watts that we are talking about in this episode is an activist, and those are the

tweets that you'll hear. So I wanted to correct myself. And I also wanted to give some information

if you or if anyone you know is experiencing domestic violence,

please reach out for help. The National Domestic Violence Hotline is 1-800-799-7233, or you can go to the hotline.org. All calls are toll-free and confidential, and the hotline is available

24-7 in more than 170 languages. I'll have that linked in the show notes below. Thanks so much for

listening.

Hello and welcome to Not So Mali Mormon Podcast.

Hello, everyone, and welcome back.

Hope you've had a great week.

This is Sarah.

And this is Katie. Yeah, I hope you all are doing well in 2023.

That's wild. It's 2023.

How are you doing, Sarah?

Good. Overall. Yeah. We chatted a bit before the episode started. I was telling Katie a bit of postpartum blues, just being real with everyone because we need to talk about it to make it normal.

But other than that, feeling a bit better now that we're recording, getting a bit out of my own funk and feeling good.

But how are you?

I'm good. Thank you. It, uh, yeah, going,

chugging along.

Shug and chugging chug, choo-choo-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-choo-choo-choo. I have a new patron to shout out.

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