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Making Sense with Sam Harris

#204 — A Conversation with Jonathan Haidt

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 May 2020

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of the podcast, Sam Harris speaks with Jonathan Haidt about the maintenance of a healthy society. They discuss the problem of orthodoxy, the history of political polarization in the US, the breakdown of public conversation, remaining uncertainty about Covid-19, motivated reasoning, the 2020 election, the future prospects for Gen Z, the effect of social media on the mental health of girls, Jonathan's experience with psychedelics, positive psychology, loss of self, the experience of awe, and other topics.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Making Sense podcast.

0:08.0

This is Sam Harris.

0:10.8

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0:23.3

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0:27.5

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0:30.6

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0:35.1

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0:39.4

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0:40.4

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0:42.8

No questions asked.

0:47.3

I am here with Jonathan Height.

0:49.1

John, thanks for joining me again.

0:51.1

My pleasure, Sam.

0:52.8

So we're planning to do a two-part conversation here, starting with the topic that has been

1:00.4

omnipresent and on everybody's mind for now some months, which is the COVID-19 pandemic.

1:08.4

And I wanted to talk to you about that just because of your expertise in social psychology

1:14.8

and the way in which it's informing or should be informing our view of political polarization,

1:22.8

the frame of society's concerns about social cohesion, and everything that is a kind of

1:30.9

knock-on effect of the, or a potential knock-on effect of the immediate concern here, which

1:36.4

is epidemiological and economic.

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