Katie Herzog was a writer at the stranger.

She's no longer there because she was furloughed and she offered herself to be furloughed.

And now she's independent. She has a podcast called Blocked and Reported.

And you should go and join her Patreon. She's she's incredibly bright.

She's a breath of fresh air. All the things you would say about somebody who's cancelled all the time.

That's what you say when someone's cancelled you go, they're a breath of fresh air.

They are. But she's great. I was in the Palm Springs. We tried to do this interview,

but we could the Wi-Fi wasn't working. Now it is much better. We wanted to have Raz Simion,

the leader of the Seattle Autonomous Zone, because they had reached out to us.

You know, they had contacted me on Instagram. Raz had retweeted me.

Maybe they had in the interim found some of my earlier work.

Or maybe they had just gotten called feet. Or maybe Raz is reading emails from the CIA about

what he should do next. I don't know. But they are welcome to come. I hope we have Raz in the future.

But Katie Herzog is here with us now. What is your read on the Seattle Autonomous Zone? Are you

going to go and explore it? Well, first of all, you're getting the name wrong. You are dead

naming the Seattle Autonomous Zone. It's actually the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone or Chaz,

which is probably the funniest part of all this. It sounds like a tennis coach. I find this whole thing

extremely funny. So what people from outside Seattle might not know is that the Capitol,

the area where this is happening, where they have declared an Autonomous State,

outside the jurisdiction of the United States, is in a really highly gentrified neighborhood.

My former office is actually in Chaz. So if I were still working at this stranger, I would be

entering the zone every day, which would be ironic because right now,

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