#203: “Jobs for the Boys” - Mindhunter

Real Crime Profile

Real Crime Profile / Wondery

True Crime, Society & Culture, Exhibit C, Documentary

4.2 • 10.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2019

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

Laura, Jim and Lisa finish forensically deconstructing Mindhunter: Season 2 Episode #1. Ted Gunn, the new unit chief overseeing the Behavioural Science Unit at Quantico, sets the unit on a new course, promising more resources and to get Holden Charles Manson.

We break down the reality vs what’s depicted in the show, Dr Wendy Carr and real life #Shero Ann Burgess who she is based on, that panic attack, whether Holden is an asset or a liability and so much more.

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0:00.0	Hey, Prime members, you can listen to Real Crime Profile add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today.
0:07.0	Do you know anything about race horse's bill? Not enough to win the track, unfortunately.
0:12.0	Well, sometimes you have a yearling with natural speed, but he's wild, ill tempered. The trainer has a choice.
0:19.0	Gueld him, he becomes more tractable.
0:21.0	But it can take away his spark, the thing that makes him exceptional.
0:25.0	So the trainer might put blinders on him. Now, when the horse races, he feels like he's alone.
0:32.0	He does what he does best, but on the track. You understand what I'm saying?
0:38.0	You don't want to castrate, hold it.
0:40.0	I need you to be Asian-Fords blinders.
0:44.0	I'm assuming you want to keep doing this, hold it in that it's not too stressful for you.
0:56.0	Yes. Then here's what's going to happen. You're going to take the weekend, get your shit together, and on Monday morning you're going to present yourself as an able, responsible and fun.
1:06.0	Professional. And no one need ever know about this episode.
1:12.0	But from now on, it's my rules. If I tell you to shut your mouth, you shut your mouth.
1:18.0	Hello and welcome to Real Crime Profile. This is Jim Clemente, retired FBI profiler, former New York City prosecutor and writer producer on CBS's Criminal Minds. And with me today is...
1:27.0	Laura Rich is Criminal Behavioral Analyst, former New Scotland Yard and founder of Paladin National Stalking Advocacy Service.
1:34.0	I'm Lisa Zambetti, I'm the casting director for CBS's Criminal Minds.
1:38.0	And we're going to discuss now, which is season two of Mindtalking's The Lopper Weighted Minds.
1:44.0	Yes. So let's start back in.
1:46.0	Here's a question for you guys. Holden calls Bill from the Highs Hospital Rim and Bill visits him and he's clearly still traumatized.
1:55.0	And Holden tells him, finally, that he had a panic attack. Now, a panic attack is a little bit in the mental health realm.
2:04.0	And I'm wondering, you know, Bill kind of keeps it a secret from the new assistant chief that he's in the hospital.
2:11.0	So what is the FBI's sort of, can you talk about this or law enforcement stance on mental health?
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