2026 Update: Frederick J. Brown
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Pushkin Industries
4.9 • 17.2K Ratings
🗓️ 21 May 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Maia found a painting in the garbage and took it home. But as it turned out, it wasn’t just any painting.
In this update, Kalila learns that she might have been looking at the painting all wrong.
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This episode was hosted and produced by Kalila Holt, along with Jonathan Goldstein. Our supervising producer is Stevie Lane. Production help from Damiano Marchetti. Special thanks to Sam Reisman, Emily Condon, Alex Blumberg, Lydia Polgreen, Marcy Flynn, Karl McCool, Caitlin Kenney, and Kayla Lattimore. The show was mixed by Bobby Lord. Music by Christine Fellows, John K Samson, Blue Dot Sessions, Michael Hearst, Sun Shapes, and Bobby Lord. Our theme song is by The Weakerthans courtesy of Epitaph Records. Mixing on this update by Sarah Bruguiere.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin. |
| 0:11.0 | Hi. |
| 0:12.6 | Hello. |
| 0:14.3 | Today we're going to revisit an episode that I reported. |
| 0:19.0 | It's called Frederick J. Brown. Oh, yeah. Okay. It's about art. It's about a painting. Amazing. I love art. You know that, right? Yeah, you're always talking about how much you love art. Is that true? No. Oh, I don't, you know, want to become one of those art bores. Are we talking about, like, fine art? Because, you? Because I thought we were talking about fine art. |
| 0:38.4 | There's all kinds of different art. Well, sure, this is art in a way. This conversation we're |
| 0:42.8 | having right now. Well, let's not get crazy. I feel like a real dilettante around art, |
| 0:49.2 | but I do like it. You like it. You wouldn't say you love it. I just don't know that I'm |
| 0:53.9 | knowledgeable enough. You don't have to be. Okay. Then I guess I love it. You like it. You wouldn't say you love it. I just don't know that I'm knowledgeable enough. You don't have to be. Okay. Then I guess I love it. Who do you think loves it more? Me or you? Probably you. Really? Maybe just because of this is going to sound worried, but you're added years of experience. Sure. I've had a lot of time in the game of ogling art. |
| 1:12.4 | You know, you might be surprised to learn that a person like myself, I'm not much of an art snob in the sense that I believe that everybody possesses artistic and creative ability. |
| 1:26.5 | Wow, that's beautiful. |
| 1:28.3 | Now I'm off my high horse. |
| 1:30.5 | I'm going to get on my low horse, my show pony. |
| 1:33.1 | Okay. |
| 1:34.1 | And away we go. |
| 1:38.0 | Away we go. |
| 1:39.1 | Do you know whose catchphrase that was? |
| 1:41.0 | No, a pilot. |
| 1:43.0 | Jackie Gleeson. |
| 1:44.2 | Oh, all right. Well, away Gleason. Oh, all right. |
| 1:45.2 | Well, away we go indeed. |
| 1:47.3 | Oh, but first, a word from our sponsors. |
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