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Next Up with Mark Halperin

2026 Starts NOW: California Governor Candidate Debate Between Steve Hilton and Stephen Cloobeck

Next Up with Mark Halperin

MK Media

News, Daily News, Politics

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Summary

On this Election Day edition of Next Up, Mark Halperin opens the 2026 election season by unveiling an innovative campaign debate format tailor-made for the new realities of today’s political discourse and new media — an actual conversation between two candidates seeking to replace Gavin Newsom as California’s next Governor: Democrat Stephen Cloobeck and Republican Steve Hilton. Today’s debate sets the new standard. Gone are the podiums, buzzers, and pre-scripted, stilted answers of legacy media — along with the biased and blabby moderators who too often make themselves the story. In their place: a focused, issue-driven exchange that reveals how candidates think, lead, and engage — giving voters a clearer sense of their ideas, mental agility, and readiness to govern when they head to the polls. Next Up’s inaugural debate with Democrat Cloobeck and Republican Hilton centers on one of the nation’s most consequential races, addressing issues that reach far beyond California — the economy, crime, education, infrastructure, and more. Welcome to the next chapter of political debate. Forward Mobile: Help protect the American vaping industry before it’s too late! Visit https://vaportechnology.org Bank On Yourself: Discover the retirement plan banks don’t want you to know about—get your free report at https://BankOnYourself.com/Mark. Home Title Lock: Go to https://hometitlelock.com/mark and use promo code MARK to get a FREE title history report and a FREE TRIAL of their Triple Lock Protection! For details visit https://hometitlelock.com/warranty

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, welcome to Next Up, exciting week here. I'm Mark Kaepern, editor-in-chief of the live

0:06.8

interactive video platform 2A and your guide to everything next up, you nexters. This Tuesday,

0:12.8

November 4th, as we record this election day for much of the United States. But our focus today

0:18.0

is not going to be on these 2025 races. We will have full analysis on Thursday's

0:22.8

program, all my reporting in just a few hours about what it all means, what happened on Tuesday

0:27.9

that is going to impact what happens next. That'll be on Thursday. But today, we've got a different

0:33.2

focus. The kickoff of the 26 midterm elections, that starts with us here now. You heard it here,

0:40.2

folks. We're beginning 2026 today because here at next up, we're always looking to do things different.

0:45.5

We're always thinking what's next up that can be better, what can be different? If the old ways are

0:50.2

not serving the public interest, we want to change things. We want to make sure that if you're

0:54.6

voting in 2026, whatever election, whatever part of the country you live in, that you get the best

1:00.5

information about what the candidates are like, who they are, what they believe in. So in today's

1:04.9

program, the very first debate, we believe, of the 2026 cycle, moderated by me. But not about me. It's not about the moderators.

1:14.0

The moderators should stay out of the waste. It's about the candidates and, of course,

1:17.8

most of all, about the voters. So joining us today, two candidates who are running to be the next

1:23.1

governor of California, Democrat, Stephen Klubeck and Republican Steve Hilton, both of whom

1:29.2

hope to replace Gavin Newsom, he's term limited. That's a very big job, very big job. And they'll be here,

1:34.9

but not like a normal network debate that you've seen. We're not going to have buzzers. We're not

1:40.1

going to have time segments. No attempts by me to ask clever questions to try to trip up the

1:45.6

moderator. No desire on my part to become the story. This is the kind of format that I've long

1:52.4

advocated, just two candidates running for the same job, directly engaging with each other,

1:57.6

addressing the issues that matter most. You don't have to have a legacy news anchor who's there rooting for one candidate or the other.

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