2026 Finals Lessons, Giannis’s Next Stop, Brunson’s Apex, and Mike Brown’s Magic Touch With Doc Rivers

The Bill Simmons Podcast

The Ringer

Sports

4.4 • 30.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2026

⏱️ 116 minutes

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The Ringer’s Bill Simmons is joined by Doc Rivers to talk about the NBA Finals, Knicks coaching, Giannis trades, and much, much more! (0:00) Intro (2:37) Doc Rivers’s NBA Finals reaction, Brunson’s greatness, and Mike Brown’s coaching (01:07:44) Giannis’s next stop, worries for coaches in 2026, and best current referees Host: Bill Simmons Guest: Doc Rivers Producers: Chia Hao Tat and Eduardo Ocampo Brought to you by PayPal. Learn more at paypal.comThe Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit https://fanduel.com/playwithaplan to learn more about the resources and helplines Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	The Bill Simmons podcast is brought to you by PayPal.
0:09.0	We are also brought to you by the Ringer podcast network,
0:12.4	where you can find the new episode of The Rwatchables.
0:14.9	We put it up Sunday night, Hand That Rocks the Cradle, part of From Hell Month.
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0:28.3	check it out. Don't forget all our basketball and soccer coverage. I'm loving the World Cup.
0:33.0	The World Cup's been fantastic. You can check out the beautiful pod with Adam Friedland.
0:38.7	And Chris Ryan has been popping on there a bunch. We've had a whole bunch of fun guests that's on Adam's
0:42.3	feed ringer gambling show as well, a lot of good gambling tips. I'm going to have the
0:46.3	bundle on, I think, at the end of the week to talk even more soccer. I try to get some tips
0:51.6	before we have this amazing USA game on Friday. Can't wait for that.
0:56.9	All right. Doc Rivers, he came here for a game or didn't come here, but we did a podcast together
1:02.2	after game one. Have not talked to him since the finals. Just a lot of big historical stuff coming
1:08.1	from that finals, a lot of strategy stuff. We had to talk, Janus,
1:12.2	what we think is going to happen this summer with all different teams, favorite players,
1:16.4	refs, all kinds of things from his last season with the Bucks. And he came over, which was great.
1:23.2	So we're going to take a break, Pearl Jam, and then in the house, Doc Rivers, next.
1:29.0	This episode of the Bill Simmons podcast is presented by PayPal.
1:32.9	You know, a clutch move when you see one, a no-look pass, a buzzer beater, big steel.
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