Pushkin.

Kalila Holt, welcome to the studio.

Jonathan Goldstein, thank you for welcoming me to the studio.

Getting a little bit of sarcasm.

Thank you. Thank you for welcoming me.

Today we're going to be listening to an episode that originally ran, oh boy, like what,

seven years ago or seven? It's in 2017, I'm pretty sure. So, oh my. Eight years ago.

It's a fan favorite. Yeah, and it's one of my favorites, too.

There's something I still quote from it, which is, I think she explains in the episode when she says,

Pearl. I still think of Pearl to this day. Rose has had an impact on me. And I'm sure she's

going to have an impact on our listeners. I'm sure she is.

Rose has an impact wherever she goes. And if you stick around at the end of the episode,

we're going to catch up with present day Rose and see where she is all these years later,

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