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The Take

2025 in Review: Can India and Pakistan avoid a fourth war over Kashmir?

The Take

Al Jazeera

Politics, Daily News, News Commentary, News

4.7748 Ratings

🗓️ 25 December 2025

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

As 2025 wraps up, we're looking back at 10 of the episodes that defined our year at The Take. This originally aired on May 8. None of the dates, titles, or other references have been changed.

It’s the biggest military escalation between India and Pakistan in decades. Missile strikes, drone attacks and deadly shelling have struck on both sides of the border in the disputed region of Kashmir. With dozens of civilians dead and both countries trading blame, can the two nuclear powers contain the dispute?

In this episode:

  • Charu Kasturi (@CharuKasturi), Senior Editor and Writer, Al Jazeera

Episode credits:

This episode was produced by Haleema Shah, Marcos Bartolome and Tamara Khandaker, with Phillip Lanos, Spencer Cline, Kingwell Ma, Mariana Navarette, Kisaa Zehra, and our guest host, Manuel Rapalo. It was edited by Noor Wazwaz. 

Our sound designer is Alex Roldan. Our video editors are Hisham Abu Salah and Mohannad Al-Melhem. Alexandra Locke is The Take’s executive producer. Ney Alvarez is Al Jazeera’s head of audio.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Al Jazeera Podcasts.

0:07.0

Hi everyone. Malika here. As 2025 comes to a close, we're spending this week and next looking back at the stories that define the year.

0:26.4

Today's episode, can India and Pakistan avoid a fourth war over Kashmir?

0:30.0

This episode first aired on May 8, 2025.

0:32.7

All dates and references are from that time.

0:33.8

Here's the show.

0:45.2

Today, a major escalation between two nuclear armed rivals.

0:52.1

Indian authorities accuse Pakistan's military of shelling villages along the de facto border.

0:56.3

The violence follows Indian airstrikes that struck nine sites in Pakistan and Pakistan administered Kashmir early on Wednesday.

1:02.1

Why India and Pakistan are inching towards a war neither country can afford?

1:08.7

I'm Manuel Rappalo and this is The Take.

1:18.5

I'm Charu Sudden Kasturi.

1:20.6

I'm a senior editor at Al Jazeera English.

1:23.3

I oversee a lot of the original content that we produce on the website.

1:29.2

Chadu, India and Pakistan are engaged in the most dramatic exchange of fire since they went to war in 1971.

1:37.2

The catalyst for this was an April 22nd attack in Indian-administered Kashmir.

1:43.1

Can you tell us the latest?

1:45.5

The latest that we're seeing today, Annie, is that Pakistan and India each accused the other

1:52.3

of launching drones. So Pakistan has announced that it has shot down 25 Indian drones that

1:58.1

apparently going to Pakistan were aimed at multiple cities,

2:02.5

including major population centers like Karachi, Lahore, and other major cities.

2:08.5

Pakistan claims they were all shot down, but some of them did hit.

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