2025 GREATS: 1010: Getting the Most Out of Generative AI at Work with Jeremy Utley

How to Be Awesome at Your Job

How to be Awesome at Your Job

Sharpening, Self-improvement, Meaning, Winning, Development, Money, Interview, Writing, Health & Fitness, Speaking, Mental Health, Success, Wins, Fun, Skills, Business, Careers, Training, Education, Collaboration, Decisions, Career, Selfhelp, Mockaitis, Thinking

4.5 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 29 December 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Jeremy Utley reveals why many aren’t getting the results they want from AI—and how to fix that.

— YOU’LL LEARN —

1) The #1 mistake people are making with AI

2) ChatGPT’s top advantage over other AI platforms (as of late 2024)

3) The simple adjustments that make AI vastly more useful

Subscribe or visit AwesomeAtYourJob.com/ep1010 for clickable versions of the links below.

— ABOUT JEREMY —

Jeremy Utley is the director of executive education at Stanford’s d.school and an adjunct professor at Stanford’s School of Engineering. He is the host of the d.school’s widely popular program "Stanford’s Masters of Creativity.”

• Book: Ideaflow: The Only Business Metric That Matters

• Article: "For Conversations You Dread, Try a Chatbot"

• Article: “Don’t Let Gen AI Limit Your Team’s Creativity”

• Website: JeremyUtley.design

• LinkedIn: Jeremy Utley

• Podcast: Beyond the Prompt

• Course: AI Bootcamp

— RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW —

• Term: Einstellung effect

• Podcast: Huberman Lab

• Video: #NSDR (Non-Sleep Deep Rest) with Dr. Andrew Huberman

• Book: That Will Never Work: The Birth of Netflix and the Amazing Life of an Idea by Mark Randolph

• Previous episode: 903: How to Save Time Using ChatGPT at Work with Donna McGeorge

• Previous episode: 1111: How to Get Better Results from AI to Amplify Your Productivity with Gianluca Mauro

— THANK YOU SPONSORS! —

• Vanguard. Give your clients consistent results year in and year out with vanguard.com/AUDIO

• Quince. Get free shipping and 365-day returns on your order with Quince.com/Awesome

• Cashflow Podcasting. Explore launching (or outsourcing) your podcast with a free 10-minute call with Pete.

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Hello and welcome back to our final representation of the finest episodes of 2025-ish.
0:06.8	And technically, this one aired in 2024, but we didn't feature it in the 2024 greats because it was in November.
0:13.6	But if you missed the conversation with Jeremy Utley about getting the most out of generative AI at work,
0:19.6	well, now is your chance to get the goods.
0:22.4	Jeremy totally refrained things for me in terms of thinking of AI, not as the Oracle that has
0:28.7	all the answers, but rather as another sort of teammate, collaborator, thought partner, role player,
0:35.4	and by shifting that perspective has made things so much
0:39.4	handier for me. So I recommend that one. That's episode 1010. And if you've already heard that
0:44.8	one, loved it. Two other fine episodes on AI were episode 903, How to Save Time Using ChatGBT
0:51.3	at Work with Donna McGeorge, as well as episode 1111.
0:55.9	How's that for Binary?
0:57.5	How to get better results from AI to amplify your productivity with John Luca Maro.
1:02.4	So three great episodes on AI to help you get the most out of things, to not be deceived and embarrass yourself with the misuse of it.
1:11.0	Hope you enjoy those, and I'm fired up for a series of bangers to kick off the new year.
1:23.9	Why is our default orientation that I'm the one with the questions and LLM is the one with the answers?
1:30.1	That's how everybody approaches it, right? Because that's how Google worked. We never think
1:33.2	Google, ask me a question. A language model is not a technology, it's an intelligence.
1:40.1	In our study, people who underperform AI feels like magic to them. People who outperform
1:45.2	who use AI to get to better work, it doesn't feel like magic. It feels like work. That's kind of
1:49.6	a fundamental tension, I think. We expect it to feel like magic or it sucks. And the truth is,
1:54.7	it's just like working with another collaborator. And you do get to better outcomes if you're
2:00.3	willing to put in the work.
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from How to be Awesome at Your Job, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of How to be Awesome at Your Job and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.